Yes that is correct and a fact which you can deny but that is all. There were a few EARWITNESSES who heard shots from the knoll. No witness identified at Dealey plaza that day SAW a man shooting from the knoll. I dare you to name one such witness who was Identified as a witness on Nov 23 1963 and who claims to have SEEN someone shooting from the knoll . If you had been paying any attention at all you would know that your little buddy Brother John has already been crushed on the doctor issue. None of them made the claims you ascribe to them concerning entrance wounds. They stated opinions about the size of the wounds. They were emergency room doctors not patholigists. They were operating to save his life not attempting to autopsy him. You are wrong on every count and proven so which is why you fake laugh.... the hysterical embarressed laughter of the defeated.
only someone smoking crack would believe 9/11 was done by Bin Laden or oswald was the lone assassin.they reveal that everyday they smoke that stuff,the magic bullet theorists.the magic bullet theorists clearly never took 7th grade junior high school science classes because if they had,they would know the laws of physics were violated in both instances. notice how they live in denial only seeing that they WANT to see denying facts that all the dallas doctors back up what some witnesses saw who said they said a gunman behind the picket fence firing a rifle and the dallas doctors findigs backed them up concluding the bullet wound to both the head and throught came from the front and the head wound from the back was an EXIT wound? notice how they make things uo to rtray and save face because they know they are defeated but too arrogant admit so? you can tell they have ZERO interest in the truth and only see what they WANT to see.
Never have truer words been spoken. I didn't know you could ignore people here though. Need to start doing that, I think.
LoneStr, I do not think you are deliberately dishonest, but I do believe that you do not properly understand the things which you are trying to discuss here. I wouldn't go so far as to ignore you. I reserve that for people with no intention of telling the truth.
yes, let's turn for Hollywood for all the answers, that's where the real evidence lies lol Let's use the entertainment industry for evidence; let's rely on conspiracy Books too.
Physics contradict neither of those reports ( JFK or 911 ) Since you are so educated in physics explain who they contradict the report. No witnesses aw a gunman firing from the knoll I asked you to name one you heve yet to do so. The doctors said no such thing. - - - Updated - - - Yes the conspiracy theorists are guilty of this
I didn't mean for it to be evidence I believe this movie presents a more plausible motive than Stone's JFK. The Theory that their political rivals were terrified of a Kennedy dynasty, John , Robert, then Teddy and one can certainly see where at the time that was very plausible scenario and the fact Robert was also killed ,certainly adds to that possibility . I just recently learned of the controversy that Sir Han Sir Han didn't shoot RFK . Sir Han was 10 to 15 ft. in front of RFK when he started firing and RFK was killed by 3 shots to the back of the head less than 6" away . The bullets that killed RFK didn't even match Sir Han's Gun which was an 8shot Iver Johnson 22 calb, There is evidence the bullets that killed RFK were 38's. Anyhow there is compelling evidence two guns were involved . There was evidence that at least 12 rounds were fired. Oh Well, I didn't mean to open up a whole new can of worms. Just pointing out they both could have been victims of the same conspiracy.
You are a funny person. Those of us who do understand physics know that Kennedy's head went back and to the left when he was shot in the head because the bullet came from the front and right. That is fundamental physics. The Parkland Hospital medical team testimony confirms that fact. To claim otherwise is a demonstration of person who does not understand the basic laws of physics. Buildings do not fall down by themselves. "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" means that the core columns had to lose their structural support in order for the buildings to collapse at near free fall. It is absolutely silly, even nonsensical, to keep making your claims. Newton's third law of motion had to be violated for NIST's report to be true and the laws of physics can't be violated. What NIST reported is impossible in the physical world.
Sometimes i get tired of debunking the same stuff but i'll continue in hopes that i can at least knock some reality into some of you. First all all, let me say that this fear of a Kennedy dynasty is grossly exagerated, as if they were a clan of communists or dictators. Why wasn't everyone afraid of a Bush Dynasty whilst George HW Bush was president and his two sons governors? Why didin't political rivals assassinate all of them? as far as your RFK allegations, again, it's all wild claims and unproven. RFK was murdered in the presence of many witnesses, 5 or 6 of them whom actually wrestled with the gunman as he continued to fire off shots.. 4 or 5 others were also wounded in this shooting. Once again a thorough investigation took place and it was determined that the likelyhood of a second gunman was remote. Some experts claimed they heard more than 8 shots, some said that they only heard 8 shots, inconclusive. The gunman was arrested and has been in jail for a long time and nothing has come out of his mouth regarding a second or more gunmen. So once again, most of the hard evidence points to a lone gunman, an investigation concluded it was a lone gunman but you guys will look at any inconsistency to conclude that it was a conspiracy. As far as this movie you provided a link to, i watched it and the filmaker did a decent job at keeping me somewhat interested; this is their goal when they make movies. I loved the idea of a group of guys getting together for coffee and tea, talking about killing the most powerful person in the world and being so confident about it. They talked as if they owned the FBI, owned the CIA, owned everyone and could easily manipulate patsy Oswald. They put 3 shooters on the scene, all of which were expert assassins who fooled everyone, fled the scene easily and reaped the rewards - 100k in their swiss bank accounts. I mean, really? I had a few laughs listening to how the conspirators knew everything, owned everyone and how fantastic the whole plan was. To you guys, this is realistic; to me, it's fantasy and Hollywood.
Democrats don't assassinate presidents. After saying that I hope Booth wasn't democrat. What did you thinkof the statistic at the end that it was a 1000 trillion to one odds of all the relevant witnesses being dead in 5 years. throat cuttings, car accidents , heart attacks etc.very very strange ! I also found it interesting how experts had to train for days to make those shots while the patsy Oswald who barely qualified as a marksman (the lowest qualification) pulled it off the first try without any practice while under the pressure of shooting at the PRESIDENT OF THE UNIED STARES OF AMERICA
really, i didn't know that interesting fact.. anyway, for what it's worth, i found the movie a bit entertaining, in particular the James Bond character Bert Lancaster portrayed; man this guy had control of everything. Everytime an obstacle came up, he had a grin and stated 'i got it covered', from the driver in the Kennedy car to secret service to feds to CIA to dallas police to black ops personell..James Bond.
your wasting your breath,pesky facts that prove there was a conspiracy to kill both kennedys,they always close their eyes to and only see what they WANT to see.ignoring what witnesses in dealy plaza say or what the dallas doctors said or what the best pathologist in the world who exmained RFK said.pesky facts liek that,they always cover their eyes to and wont read claiming they never saw that or whatever to try and save face in defeat. whats really hysterical is the magic bulle theorists like to convince themselves they have debunked these facts when they have never debunked jack squat ever since they got here as they well know. they in fact evade your facts and change the subject everytime and then after they get debunked,they get frustrated and create another thread to evade the facts they cant refute.
That's what that video you posted taught me. Shooting at a moving target is much more difficult than a stationary target. That is why the car had to be slowed down to less than 20 MPH. I have my doubts about exactly who was involved, but in 1973 a lot of people were already convinced that it was a conspiracy. That was a good film and thanks again for posting it.
Actually, have you ever heard of this little obscure scientific principal known as "Newton's Laws of Motion"? Yea, I know it is obscure, but the third of these three simple laws goes as follows: When one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction to that of the first body. So the question really becomes, which has more mass: the bullet itself, or the mass of blood and briains and bone pushed forward by the bullet? If the bullet masses more, then the object (in this case a head) moved in the direction of the trajectory. However, just like the operation of jet propulsion, if the mass of body matter exceeds that of the bullet, then it moves the opposite direction. I guess you could say that this is rocket science, but it is not difficult rocket science. And we have this other famous photograph that does the exact same thing. Now the blue box is the location of the shooter that hit this individual. And you can see the blood and brain matter is just starting to come out of the wound, on the opposite side of where the shooter is. And the head is cocked towards the shooter, not away from him. Or let me guess, this photograph was faked decades before the JFK shooting, in preparation for this assassination.
Even 7 forever the zany driver killed JFK theorist admits that the film shows the opposite of this. Kennedy's head bobs forward BEFORE the pink mist and before the back and left movement. Physics do not dictate that people move away from the direction of a bullets travel they often fall TOWRD the bullet or awaqy from it or to the side or simply collapse like a puppet with it's strings cut. What you are confusing is your experience watching Tv and movies with physics it is simply not fact that people are always pushed by a bullet. But in this case the bullet did push his head away (which is why it moved forward. Other forces caused the back and left movement. Which is why your freind has to claim the film was altered although he never provides proof of such alteration. The Parkland medical team testimony confirms no such thing they only stated casual opinion not medical fact which you keep denying even though the quotes you provide prove it. The autospy proves that the entrance was from behind and above and no evidence contradicts that or undermines the autopsy. Newtons third law of motion was followed perfectly and in no way violates the NIST report. The buildings structual support was lost due to impact damage and fire not a shred of evidence proves otherwise.
Not when the target is moving away from you and at very close range as it was from Oswalds vantage point. - - - Updated - - - You keep ignoring that you are the magic bullet theorist who believes impossible lies about bullets.
Actually, he was. What is known as a "Copperhead", a pro-Slavery Democrat who did not favor a war to resolve the issue. However, once the war started he did support that, then decided to Punish the President after it was over. So Was James Earl Ray, who self-identified as a "Yellow Dog Democrat" (somebody who only voted for Democrats). He did support Senator McCarthy because of his anti-Communist stance, but campaigned for George Wallace in 1967. Leon Czolgosz was unquestionably a Leftist Socialist Anarchist. As was Giuseppe Zangara. Oscar Collazo and Griselio Torresola were members of the Puerto Rican Nationalist Party, the local Leftist party in Puerto Rico. Carl Weiss came from a family of Democrat and Democrat politicians, several had lost seats due to Governor Long's gerrymandering. And I can go on, but what is the point? You will just deny and make excuses.
Actually the statistic about the witnesses being dead has long since been debunked. Calculating the odds of a specific number of people dying is a fairly easy and straight forward excercise. Insurance companies do it all the time to create actuary tables which is how they determine what premiums to charge based on the odds of someone dying within a certian amount of time for s specific cause. The point is when theorists calculate these odds ( 1000 trillion to one ) they simply make up such odds without ever showing how they calculate it. This is because no relevant witnesses have died in statistically unusual numbers or in such a short amount of time. In other words the author of these odds lied. It is very simple they need to follow the high school math rule of " show your work " or the answer is meaningless. Many people make the mistake of claiming Oswald was rated a marksman. His marine corps record clearly and irrefutably shows he qualified as a sharpshooter in basic training. He was not a poor shot but a good one as all marines are. Experts used by the Warren commission and others did not train at all in the sense that they rehearsed the shooting before attempting to repeat it. They simply went out and did it as good or better than Oswald. Furthermore not all of them were " experts ". The WC specifically recruited experts AND average riflemen from the Army all of whom were easily able to match or exceed Oswalds shooting. The probelm is as I so often point out no one bothers to check the Warren Commission report which contains these facts they simply believe whatever some idiots video on you tube tells them to believe. You obviously cannot get Oswalds exact rifle but many identical models exist and generally people find it is very accurate at close range ( - 200 yards ) and is easy to shoot rapidly. Kennedy was closer than 100 yards for all three shots.
well because the WC report doesn't fit in with their conspiracy stories. The WC was spearheaded by the chief justice of the supreme court and these guys bring him down to the level of a gangster covering up the truth. The WC brought in many experts, conducted tests, interviewed doctors and witnesses, looked at the evidence and spent months investigating this. By and large, the WC trumps, steps on and smashes any book, filmaker or youtube video conspiracy thoerists point to. Was it a prefect investigation? probably not; i'm sure there were some minor flaws in their work. Does this prove that they covered something? NO. We also know the HSCA conducted another independant investigation and were even critical of the WC, they also pointed to Oswald. The reality of this is that it is impossible to argue against conspiracy theorists in internet forums as no matter how much hard evidence you throw at them, they claim it's fabricated, planted and no matter how many thorough investigations are conducted, they will claim they covered stuff up. How can you have a serious debate when they continue using these cheap gimmicks?
The investigators for the government get paid the same regardless of out come. The conspiracy theorists only make a buck if they convince people of a conspiracy. That is the difference you do not seem to get
