Prominent conservatives issue report rebutting Trump election claims

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    A group of conservatives, including prominent lawyers and retired federal judges, issued a 72-page report on Thursday categorically rebutting each of the claims made in court by former President Donald Trump and his supporters over the 2020 election results.

    The report, "LOST, NOT STOLEN: The Conservative Case that Trump Lost and Biden Won the 2020 Presidential Election," looked at more than 60 court cases Trump and his supporters filed and lost in six key battleground states. It reached the "unequivocal" conclusion that the former Republican president's claims were unsupportable -- which Trump's own Department of Homeland Security as well as election officials nationwide debunked days after the 2020 election.


    https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/14/politics/conservatives-report-trump-2020-election-claims/index.html

    Even though this report (from prominent, respected, Conservatives) is simply an acknowledgement that 1+1=2 it is still good to see.
    Trump (and everyone else) needs to come to grips with the REALITY of the 2020 Election.
    Once again, I applaud these Patriotic Conservatives.
     
  2. Hey Now

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    RINOs damnit!!!! Not one real Trumper in there!!!!
     
  3. mdrobster

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    They will be labeled as RINOs and then dismissed just because they countered Trump.
     
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    They are just rinos. Lets dismiss this. They just trying to hurt trump.

    :headbang:
     
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    Kinda reminds me of evil, hateful, hypocritical, judgmental, <everything else is bannable> "true Christians" that think everybody else in inferior in their "imaginary Sky Daddy knowledge". /smdh
     
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    Hey, some Republicans did support Nixon as he gave the high Vee sign and mounted da choppah.
     
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    I’ll ask you the same thing I’ve asked everyone else who claims the election wasn’t stolen.

    What function do we have in place to prevent and which process did any of these people claiming it wasn’t stolen undergo that would identify fraudulent ballots introduced into the count?
     
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    Or, maybe they're as sick of Trump as the Democrats and Independents are. Maybe they put country before some demigod.
     
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    Nah i like my idea better
     
  10. jcarlilesiu

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    None of that changes the fact that the rules were changed, security of our election process put at risk, and known fraud existed, to what extend can not be determined.

    If there is one thing our republic should protect, it's our right to due process and our right to fair and free elections.

    Studies have shown that mail-in ballots, absentee ballots, early voting among others pose a risk to securing the fair election part of that phrase. That's a known fact.
     
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  11. Andrew Jackson

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    Yup...
    Trump puts HIMSELF ahead of the Party...
    In Trumpworld:
    Everybody who doesn't blindly worship Trump is a RINO...:smdh:
     
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    Were you asking everyone that question after the 2016 election?
     
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    The 2016 election wasn’t tainted by mass mail in voting
     
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    There were about 33 millions absentee ballots in 2016. Why weren't you concerned about mass fraud with those ballots?
     
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    Wow..... This breaking news on the 20/20 election is so cutting edge!

    Surely the stuff that keeps the current event forums alive and active!
     
  16. Stuart Wolfe

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    Let's have some fun with this!
    Later, @Egoboy and I had this conversation:
    I eagerly await you proclaiming me a Patriotic Conservative, AJ!
     
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    I’m glad you Trump supporters have finally accepted that you backed the worst criminal in the history of the United States. What will you do to atone for your awful judgment and attempt to overthrow a free, fair and secure election ? What will you do to atone for repeating the lies of a criminal?

    I assure you, since you are fellow Americans, we will be compassionate.
     
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    You have a vivid imagination.
    How will you ever atone for supporting a guy who used American taxpayer-funded foreign aid to get a prosecutor fired for investigating his corrupt crackhead sons connections in an obviously corrupt pay-to-play scheme?

    The dude can't even speak the language and yet he's on the board of directors.
     
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    Republicans, democrats and independents all monitor each other. Satisfied?
     
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    Because those absentee ballots had to provide a justifiable reason to be sent an absentee ballot. They didn’t just send them out en masse lol

    Furthermore in 2016 the democrats didn’t use their unelected politicians to remove signature verification as a requirement in most of the states like they did in 2020.

    Moreover in 2016 we didn’t have any of the massive “mail in supercenters” which democrats vociferously advocates for and demanded. Supercenters which take multiple districts and fold them into one large mail in district center, making it nearly impossible to identify whether one district is producing more mail in ballots than it has voters to justify.
     
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    There were more than 60 cases brought to court at the time, all dismissed. How many courts do we want to involve in what was, according to every expert, left or right, to have been one if the most safe and secure elections in our time?

    Here is the most comprehensive list of voter fraud statistics I've been able to find:

    https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

    And FYI, the Heritage Foundation is one of the most conservative organizations in the country.
     
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    None of which answered the question presented.
     
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    The point is that we already have processes to ensure free and fair elections. Just because you didn't like the outcome doesn’t mean the system is broken.
     
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    Then point it out. What process did ANYONE engage in which would identify fraudulent ballots introduced into the count after the legitimate ballots were removed from their envelopes but before they were counted?

    What process or safeguard is it exactly?
     
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    This is a case you're making for a larger general overhaul of election practices, not evidence of actual voter fraud in the 2020 election. All you're doing is presenting the possibility, but the possibility of something has never been the basis for investigations without evidence that establishes it as more than a possibility.

    If we investigated everything based purely on possibility, we would have to investigate everything, all the time. You found a $20 bill in the grocery store parking lot? It's possible you stole it and didn't actually find it, guess we better investigate. A meteor fell out the sky and hit your house. Guess we better investigate that you aren't a part of a secret cabal that has launched a satellite that collected, aimed, and fired that meteor at your house in an attempt to defraud your insurance company. I mean, it's technically possible.

    What gives you away, and those who still cling to this ridiculous fantasy, is that you only think the funny business happened in the places that Biden won. I've never, not once, seen the Big Lie proponents wanting recounts and investigations in states Trump won. Remember, it's POSSIBLE that any vote ever cast in any election was fraudulent including the elections won by folks you support. That is the telltale sign that you know it's nonsense and that you are psychologically unprepared to accept that Trump actually lost and Biden won. As the years go on, the theories and reasonings will only get more and more outrageous, especially if Trump runs and then loses in 2024.
     

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