Putin Won't have it! WW2 was Wests' fault. Hitler was created and pushed to attack Russia.

The reason was a real one, seeing as the Germans themselves, Prussians actually, imposed payments on France when they defeated them in 1871, and they demanded a sum about equal to the size of the French economy as the Versailles treaty imposed on the Germany economy, whose industrialized economy at the time was over 5+ times larger. And, they never actually paid much of it anyway, since they waffled for years, and then the U.S. stepped in and paid most of what little was paid. It's a myth that the reparations caused' massive inflation'; that's rubbish. It was caused by the German's Reichbank, speculating in the currency markets of the Netherlands, thinking they could force the Allies to take paper reichmarks worth nothing, and allowing the Junkers and industrialists to pay off their war debts in the same worthless currency. See how the Kaiser financed the war for how that all worked.

The British provided the Soviets with the aid to rescue Moscow, but the U.S. was in turn selling them goods at the time, making it possible. When we jumped in we financed and supplied the vast bulk of the efforts, including the Soviets. The Soviets would have collapsed without the British and later American aid. They declared war on us, not the other way around; we owe nobody anything, much less credit. The Soviets couldn't have won if the U.S. hadn't forced the Germans to strip the East of air and anti-aircraft units and man the Atlantic Wall, and of course the troops to save Italy after Sicily and Anzio.

LEt's see, the U.S. enters, and the war is over in about three years, across two big ass oceans ... yeah, the U.S. does indeed have bragging rights. Thanks for playing.

And, we did indeed win most of the war, and on three fronts to boot. I know this fact sucks for the America haters of the modern era, especially now when they're having to actually pay for some of their defense themselves, thanks to The Evul Trump N Stuff.

 

lol The U.S. took in half of all the Jews on the planet, while most of Europe stood by the roadsides cheering their being herded up and marched off to the worst prisons in human history.

It's a good thing we didn't go ahead and rescue eastern Europe, as the scum were as bad as the Nazis in murdering Jews, and they very much deserved their Soviet occupation; they earned it.

 

Hitler did not have the electricity to develop "the bomb"

It took 1/3 of electricity production to do it.
Through the 30's FDR built all these regional hydro electric facilities
that were not yet wired up to people.
Such as TVA and near Hanford Washington.
had the electricity and thereby the means to purify Uranium and create plutonium too.



A unique situation only in

Deus vult!​

 

Yeah... so funny. The US joined the war in 1994. The war was rather quickly over after they joined.
Imagine.... the US could have helped stop the war in 1940, if they joined when it started.
Saving all them Jews. But I guess not all are that brave to make such sacrifices like the USSR made.

 

The war started in 1939. If the US joined at that point, it could have ended in 1940. The US deliberately did nothing. It was it's policy. And so let the Jews get slaughtered. Go tell your uncle that one.

 

History revisionism at its finest. You seem to be under the impression FDR could have snapped his fingers, and a industrial base to support the war, and a military to fight it could have just magically appear. That’s dumb.
At the out break of the war, the US had the smallest military in the world. You know, it kinda takes time to raise one.

 

Dude. You do not know what you're talking about. The debt that the US, UK and France put up was so massive that they enslaved Germany for eternity. They tried to make Germany pay for it. It just could not. And as a reprisal,... they invaded Germany because of that for a while to use Germans as slaves. That made the Germans vote extreme. The allied made them so to get rid of the insanity. Hitler just simply build up the army again so they couldn't just invade again to slave them around... and he than just refused to pay a dime. And the Germans were happy about it. And enter the blame on the Jews, who are rather well installed in the world of finance.

Oh bravo. Lending money. Gee. How heroic. It's almost like you fought yourself... but the US only fought for like a year or so in WWII. Not so much. Didn't do that much. Made money on peoples misery they did.

 

WWII was started by BOTH HITLER AND STALIN.
Lenin sought to start this war himself, before his country got too weak because of Communism.

 

Thanks for that. That's really interesting.
My understanding is that National Socialism controlled the means of production
and International Socialism owned the means of production.

 

Why didn’t Britain, and France march into Germany as soon as soon as Hitler started violating the Treaty of Versailles? France has the largest military in Western Europe. I’ll guess I’ll use your lack of logic, and call it cowardice.

derp

 

Alt Facts that Leninists influenced the Nazis.

 

I wouldn't say "influenced" but rather the two groups shared two things
1 - both celebrated extremism and rejection of Western democratic values.
2 - both lived in the same "socialist" swamp.

... and both declared war on us in 1939.

 

How's Canada Moi621?.....is it spring there yet?

Russia/SU excluded from the "West"?......well Russia's never been part of the West....or even fully understand the western mindset.

Cost of "reparations??....sure , a steep price to pay for losing the war.

Putinka correct?.....more like spouting off to his local sheeple.....keep them in the dark, feed them ****, grow like mushrooms.

 

....US was cowardly and hardly did a thing. You must've flunked history.....but hey I understand , in fact I sympathize.

 

lol you seem to have this weird idea that it was America's job to save Europe from itself, and we' were 'bad' not to jump in at every idiotic collapse of European political intelligence. Hate to break it to you, but Europe can make it's own beds, and it's not like Europeans alive today have any gratitude for their not speaking Russian and having to say 'Heil Putin' as a greeting.

We wasted a lot of lives and wealth on western Europe, really. We probably should have just sold it to Stalin in exchange for gold, chrome, and other mineral wealth and at least gotten our money back, instead of just another motley collection of whiney dependent parasites.

 

lol Goebbel's {b]Letters[/b]. his PArty paper, says otherwise. They were quite open in their love for the Russian Revolutionaries. You really should read the books and bios and not parrot Commie propagandists for your responses.

 

Cowardly huh? Not my reading of what Americans did, particularly in the Pacific theatre.
Some of my own family came home in coffins.
What is YOUR military service?

 

Rubbish, of course. Little point in playing " I Touched You Last!!!" with those so ignorant of even basic history. Again, the Peanut Gallery can find a list of what payments were actually ever made and when by a search; that way they can find sources for themselves instead of being dependent on links from people they don't know, and find multiple sources to boot.

 

Well, if we had declared war first, then these haters' spin would be all about how 'Evul Imperialist N Stuff' we are. They aren't here to argue or debate, they're here to spread nothing but insipid bullshit.

 

Canada Dry ginger ale in a glass looks like Champagne, but it isn't.
This thread is filled with Canada Dry history.

 

One thing to remember

The west was fighting on 3 fronts Russia was fighting on one front.

Had we not had to fight the Japanese and the germans in Africa then the Italians and germans up through southern Europe we would have marched into Berlin well before 1945.

Putin can put a sock in it.. lend lease saved his country.

 

No, his letters and party newspaper say differently. You need to educate yourself and stop parroting lefty nonsense.

 

In the space of 100 years America faced off Communism, Fascism
and Islamism. Without America you can take your choice which you
want to live under.
IMO there's two groups here - those who went and actually fought,
and those who didn't fight but enjoy the benefits of someone else's
blood.

 

My military service?

Desert Storm 91 .....