Putting an end to an ubiquitous meme from Trump loyalists

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    You STILL think Russia collusion is real?...LMAO!!!
     
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    Cross examination from which side?

    We didn't give Bin Laden equal time during the 911 hearings.

    It was an attack on our system of government, the other side doesn't get equal time. It's pathetic that some in our country think the insurrection deserves equal time.
     
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    Interesting perspective but it is America and they are Americans.
     
  4. kriman

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    No need to cross examine. Just give the guilty bastard a fair trial before you hang him. The democrat way. Not the democratic way.
     
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    Yea, and in any criminal trials they will have due process rights.
     
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    So far, the bulk of the witnesses have been Trump appointees. To whom are you referring when you say 'anti Trump witnesses'?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How about the last lady who said she heard that Trump tried to take over the steering wheel of the presidential limousine.? Have the others been questioned by Trump friendly people like they would in court?
     
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    NBC = MSM = Fake News.
     
  9. garyd

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    In order for some one to refute facts someone has to produce them. Op did not he produce claims that have already been debunked numerous times.
     
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    So she's is 'anti-Trump'? I know he's trying to spin it that way, saying he didn't even know her. But her position as Meadows' assistant makes that a ludicrous claim. She has already stated that she was told that fact - not that she witnessed it herself. What would pro Trump lawyers do to change that testimony? We have some SS saying it was true, others saying it wasn't. So its a toss up right now.
     
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    But it’s not evidence. You can’t charge someone with murder just because someone said they heard someone else claim a guy murdered someone. She wasn’t a credible witness and would have been obliterated under cross examination. Probably why these hearings are a pony show.

    There was no evidence Trump did nearly anything he was accused of because it was always someone heard someone think they saw something. Another unnamed source saw Trump pee on strippers. They thought they heard him tell everyone bleach cured Covid. Or he told people to go attack the capital and take over. They thought they heard him call KKK members fine people too. Kangaroo crazy court.
     
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    Welp, looked through all of your links. Not one of them is a court document, much less a court document that says Trump is guilty of anything. So you fail at proving Trump colluded, or committed a conspiracy, with Russia.
     
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    She was billed by the democrats as their most important witness yet. She quoted someone that quoted someone. That would not even be allowed in court.
     
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    They don't care this is a hoax it was a hoax when they discovered it they knew it was a hoax they still know it's a hoax. All they're doing is really convincing leftists not to vote for Trump which seems odd to me I don't think they ever did
     
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    There are no facts to refute. You don't refute a hoax you left at the people who believe it.
     
  16. Kal'Stang

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    :rolleyes:

    "Hey judge! We looked all over the place and could not establish that the defendant committed murder, but we're not saying that he didn't commit murder!!!"

    That is your argument. Sounds silly doesn't it? Like it or not, our system relies on EVIDENCE. Not belief. And Mueller straight up said he couldn't find any evidence of a conspiracy between Trump and Russia. Despite, as the post that you responded to shows and you do not dispute....

    "50 Forensic FBI agents, two dozen CIA officials, 14 top Democrat lawyers, 2500 witnesses, and millions of subpoenaed documents" (Mueller also had foreign investigative agencies help also)

    If you can't establish something after all of that...then there was nothing to establish.
     
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    Hell, it normally wouldn't have even been allowed from any congressional committee pre-Trump.
     
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    But it's NOT court, is it RE? I know she's been called a liar, anonymously.
    But no one's steped up to swear, under oath, that she's lying about "hearing" tRaitor tRump went for the steering wheel. You're using that little detail to obfuscate, as you always do, that, that was the most insignificant part of her testimony.

    I found it inconceivable that OUR President regularly used tableware to vent his anger. :shock:
    Not the behavior the guy in control of the nuclear football should ever stoop to, much less be a regular practitioner.
     
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    Elections are coming.... they will throw any and all garbage at the wall .... they will pull up 2 year old threads and restart them... they are starting up conversations to misdirect and get the attention away from Joe Biden...
    they will flood us with the Russia collusion, and now the illegit and illegal committee junk, whether they even send referrals or not for Trump. They are covering up for crime boss Joe Biden

    Who failed to schedule the legally required program describing prospective offshore lease sales over the following five years …. Failing to follow the law and prepare a final five-year leasing plan by the deadline. That means the federal government will not offer any new offshore oil and gas lease sales until the following year

    Who abandoned a military airbase in the middle of the night, release 1500 terrorist loose, and equip our enemy with our most sophisticated military equipment in the world

    Who released the 1500 terrorist, which one turned around killed 13 American military folks and 170 civilians.

    Who can give out foreign aid to the tune of 54 billion plus, because they are being invaded, but can’t spend 5 billion on our own border to keep us from being invaded…

    Who then turned around for revenge and drone striked an innocent man and his 7 children.

    Who ordered a military evacuation, then leaving for a 3 day vacation refusing to take any calls from our allies

    Who abruptly stopped cooperating with the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan (SIGAR) investigating the botched withdrawal, continuing refusal to provide information and assistance requested by his office,” especially on three sensitive matters: the swift collapse of the U.S.-backed government in Afghanistan after President Biden’s disastrous withdrawal of military forces in August 2021, compliance with “laws and regulations prohibiting the transfer of funds to the Taliban,” and humanitarian aid for the Afghan people. Who takes credit away from getting vaccine approval and a developing distribution.

    Who release and ship Covid infected illegal invaders into the US to infect American citizens

    Who tell illegal invaders to come and then allow them to invade our country unimpeded.

    Who has killed thousands of Americans with illegal opioids brought through his open border.

    Who leaves millions of dollars of wall material lay on the ground then have the American tax payers build a wall around his house.

    Who taunts our enemies and takes us closer to war, then sells the oil we need to fight a war to Europe.

    Who has crippled America with skyrocketing gas prices and highest inflation in 40 years.... lying about the economy claiming inflation was just transitory

    Who emboldened our enemies in Russia and China by demonstrating his cowardice in Afghanistan.

    Who indoctrinated our children with racist CRT.

    Who blackmailed a foreign government using US taxpayer money and claim it is US policy, while implicating his boss president

    Who participate in a coup to overthrow a duly elected president........

    Who, thanks to his incompetence, has the world feeding America instead of America feeding the world? America is now the country in need of foreign aid to keep our own children from starving.

    Who is holding American citizens without a fair and speedy trial and trial by a jury of their peers.

    Who totally screw up a military evacuation and leave Americans behind enemy lines, and who are still there to this day.

    Who claims a president with Covid deaths should not be president and then remain in office after he has more deaths under his watch.

    Who propose reimbursing illegals while blaming another president for exactly what his administration is also doing...

    Who cancels an American pipeline, killing thousands of good paying jobs while giving a thumbs up to a Russian pipeline..

    Who reverses us from energy independent exporting oil to begging OPEC to produce more oil...

    Who mandates others wear a masks and then go out in public without a mask.

    Who left Americans and alleys in Afghanistan that are still there. He has emboldened our enemies in Russia and China by demonstrating his cowardice in Afghanistan

    Who refused to send in our troops to get Americans out while Germany, Britain, and France send in their troops to get their people out.

    Americans and allies are still trapped in Afghanistan and our own government is not getting them out... private American citizens are... what a disgrace the withdraw was

    Operation Pineapple Express

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/scott-mann-patriot-awards-winner-fox-nation-afghanistan-rescue-mission

    Project dynamo

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/1...ehind-in-afghanistan-hundreds-remain-1177728/

    Who sign a $2 trillion spending package into law under the guise of “COVID relief”— even though an estimated $1 trillion in previous spending remains unspent

    Who has a son's laptop that implicates himself in very shady foreign deals...

    Who cancelled drilling leases in the gulf, blocked oil exploration in the oil rich regions of Alaska, then canceled our Keystone pipelines.

    Who calls a person a "lying dog-faced pony soldier" and not have his teeth violently removed...

    Who literally flaunts racism by specifying a black woman need only apply for a job.

    Who still buys oil from our enemies who invade other countries and some chant death to America.

    Who took us from a net exporter of oil for the first time in 75 years, and returned us to energy dependence

    Who ""Set Up"" the War on Parents by his administration.

    Who claims he is all about saving the planet and then one of the first thing he did was open a pipeline for Europe from Russia and then go to war with Russia to try and stop all that oil coming through that very pipeline.

    Who equip our enemy with our military stuff making the US the number 1 state sponsor of terrorist.

    Who is the Crime boss daddy take shower with his daughter.

    Who totally eviscerate a former President for doubting elections while himself telling Americans to doubt the elections

    Who has a dope head whore mongering son. ( lives in his $2.5 million home while claiming he’s unable to pay child support for his baby conceived out of wedlock. He was also arrested for drug possession when he was 18 but never served any time and had his record expunged. Baby boy was also kicked out of the Navy for cocaine usage and was recently suspected of smoking crack at a strip club.)........Who claims transparency then has his son using his toot straws to supposedly create painting that secretly sold without accountability. Hunter painting $500k.. picaso paintin $400k

    Who spend 120 years in Congress

    Who touch and sniff little girls

    Who is compromised by China... bought and paid for.

    Does not know what planet he is on.

    Don't know their name is not Brandon..

    Who pays contractors million to not build the wall.

    Who tries to deny lawful Americans from owning guns for personal protection, while sending billions of military equipment and aid to a foreign country for their personal protection.

    Who claimed the previous president put people in cages... while his administration and his former boss are the ones building the cages.

    Who defend Antifa movement riots attack a federal courthouse in Portland, Oregon and claim that the feds were “brutally attacking peaceful protesters.”

    Who claimed there was not a vaccine before he came into office, when he had already gotten a vaccination shot himself before and the vaccine were distributed starting a month before he took office.... Thanks to Warp Speed

    Who claims he was the "great one" that ended a 20 year war... after the previous president is actually the one making the move to end the 20 year war. He literally took the previous presidents idea and efforts and claimed as his own.

    Who gets in front of an audience and make a blunder about their "CFO dropping dead"

    Who made threats to take a president behind the bleachers and the threat to a president was laughed off where any other would be "consulted". Try that one yourself and see how that works out for you.

    Who can’t ride a bike whether he is chewing gum or not.
     
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    There are two SS members, the ones that were actually in the car, have stepped up and said that they were willing to testify under oath. The only reason that they haven't is due to the committee not calling them in. You can't blame that on the SS members. If they are to testify then they MUST be summoned by the committee....why haven't they done that?
     
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    The Hillary created Russia collusion was known by your president Obama , Biden and and all the government agencies before it was started.... all were in on it, and all had knowledge of it...

    It was when a president Obama, VP Biden, the intelligence community knowingly used manufactured and created garbage scenario of a collusion by Hillary bought and paid for...
    None of it was never looked into and no one ever charged in a treasonous act to overthrow a duly elected president in a coup...
    Not only did Mueller, the FBI knew, CIA, Obama, Biden, all our intelligence agencies knew...
    All documented... and undeniable.... The Obama Whitehouse was in on it... how much more "in your face" can you get and no one goes to jail..
    Strange how our Republican special prosecutor Mueller missed this.... maybe he did not do a very good job of investigation...
    ""Former CIA Director John Brennan briefed former President Obama on Hillary Clinton’s “plan” to tie the Trump campaign to Russia as a means of distracting the public from her private email server scandal before the 2016 election, according to newly declassified documents.""
    https://news.yahoo.com/dni-releases-cia-documents-hillary-204337457.html
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dni-brennan-notes-cia-memo-clinton
    https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/0...ral-on-clinton-campaigns-collusion-operation/

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    I don't get the impression that is about being a loyal Trumper. To me, it's across the board.

    They don't care that it's hypocritical to shrug off serial cheaters and men that use their power to have sexual relationships with women while lambasting the female and ignoring the males' roles in unwanted pregnancies.

    They don't care to educate themselves about what "grooming" actually means. They just hear "non-heterosexual" and run rampant.

    They don't care that bigotry of all types exist because they condone all of it. They don't want things to be fair, equal or equitable.

    They don't care to know that non-white, non-female and non-heterosexuals are just as capable as anybody else (and it's actually harder for them to achieve their goals because of systemic bigotry, not some "token" job).

    They don't care that all the people outside of white male heterosexual Christians that contributed to the birth of this nation are relegated to footnotes or omitted completely and call it "hateful" to have them included in our children's education.

    They don't care if Trump broke the law.

    I was thinking about this the last few weeks and I strongly believe that they would still be beating us over the head that his hands are clean even if those rioters captured and/or killed Pence or Pelosi (and anybody else). There were some reports about snipers around the area prepared to take down anybody that put up resistance toward Trump. Maybe that's why he didn't want the metal detectors and was trying to force SS to take him to the Capitol. He fully wanted them to go all the way. He was reportedly furious they didn't accomplish the goal.

    The reality is there is no reason for them to educate themselves on facts because they never use them to make any judgment calls. Across the board, the people that don't look, love and/or worship the way they do are deemed in the wrong and inferior regardless of the actual circumstances. Why waste energy delving into any of it when they don't care if their information is wrong or at least skewed? That's precious energy that can be spared and used on spreading more hate and division just like their Orange Lord.
     
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    Sure there are.

    Hmmmm, no facts refuted by this poster , just more Trumpian LALALALALA.
     
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    Link?
     
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    That's not true:

    "... Ratcliffe is wrong to say the dossier “started all of this.” Competing memos from the Republicans and the Democrats on the House intelligence committee both say that information about George Papadopoulos, a Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, had prompted the FBI investigation in July 2016.
    ... Republicans on the House intelligence committee raised concerns about the use of the dossier in an application from the DOJ and FBI under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to conduct electronic surveillance on Carter Page, another Trump campaign foreign policy adviser. But it said the “Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016.”
    The Democrats on the House intelligence committee agreed with that, saying in a memo released Feb. 24, 2018, that the FBI investigation started “more than seven weeks” before the FBI received Steele’s intelligence reporting in mid-September of that year.
    The two sides disagree about how essential the dossier was to the FISA court application to monitor Page. But one of the few points of agreement is that the FBI investigation began with information on Papadopoulos."
    https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/dossier-not-what-started-all-of-this/
     
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