Question for black people.

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  1. BobbyJoe

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    If a person feels threatened because of their race or religion for good reason, I don't think that makes them a racist.

    In America, white people are generally the majority and are generally responsible for making people feel unwelcome....isn't that how it's been?

    And generally, historically, in America, segregation was created by white people, was it not? And continues today.

    I couldn't disagree more. How you cannot be disgusted by the "stealth" nature of this thread is beyond me.

    So you took a thread that is far from colorblind, an idiotic thread about texting that is obviously pathetically racist, and piled on, blaming black people for being racist.

    And that's you being "colourblind" and creating social cohesion and social harmony??

    Good job.
     
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    1) Religion is optional, so isn't relevant. If yours isn't popular where you live, get a new religion. Unlike skin colour, you can change it any time you like. So, why don't black people in the UK feel so threatened by their neighbours that they end up speaking ebonics? Why don't Chinese and Indians in America feel so threatened by their neighbours that they develop a 'non-white' dialect? Why aren't white Americans making the Chinese and Indian migrants feel 'unwelcome'? Clearly the issue isn't coming from white folk.

    2) American segregation was before most Ebonics speakers were born. Not relevant, just as the holocaust isn't relevant to the day to day manner a Jew conducts themselves in Germany today.

    3) I don't regard the OP as even the slightest bit racist. On the contrary, I find her entirely colourblind - that's WHY she's able to ask simple questions without being crippled by racist 'protectionism'. She regards black folk as grown ups, not sensitive children.

    4) Yes, I do blame black Americans for their current racism. They are choosing to perpetuate it, despite having not had any need to do so for decades.

    5) Yes, colourblindness is the only way forward. ALL of us need to disregard the colour of skin, and be a CULTURALLY and LINGUISTICALLY cohesive group/nation, with the same values and ethics, and without 'making ourselves different' to our neighbours, or the broader community.

    And now I'll let you off the hook before you dig yourself in any deeper. My husband is black, my kids are black, and I'm not technically white (though I do have gloriously pale skin :spin: )
     
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    Also, are all white people from the South named Bubba?
     
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    Maybe. It's a good comical name, so let's hope so!
     
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    How can a person who asks specifically about "black people" be colorblind?

    The whole question is based on color.

    What a colorblind statement.

    How am I digging myself in deeper? I still find your position and attitude weird and you aren't showing any sort of positivity, you are as "colorblind" as the OP.
     
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    I ask because they're not the only dark skinned people, but they're the only dark skinned people CHOOSING to separate themselves. It's OPTIONAL, unlike like the colour of their skin. The racism could not be clearer. A colourblind person does not deliberately segregate themselves from their neighbours because the neighbours have different skin. A colourblind person does not judge his/her neighbours according to their skin tone.

    It is absolutely NOT based on colour, because only one non-white group, of the many non-white groups in America, is doing it. This is about their cultural choice to separate themselves.

    Again, if you think colourblindness isn't a positive, I can't help you. You're kinda lost. And no doubt you find my position weird because you're not used to colourblind people. I hear they're sorely lacking in America.
     
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    That’s as silly as asking southerners if they write southern..you know the drawl..hoooooow youuu allllll doing
    Or a New Yorker..if the leave off their Rs when they write
     
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    When people say they are color blind, they are being dishonest. It’s like saying you’re gender blind. Did t notice the gender.
     
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    You seem lost to me.

    You keep going on about color, blaming people based on their color, and then claim to be colorblind.

    It makes no sense.

    If you wanted to make your "case" about this subject, and what you're essentially saying isn't necessarily "weird", you'd make the case entirely differently. But the way you are saying it, and the game you're playing...is weird.

    And you seem to think it's okay because you apparently aren't white and you're married to a black person.

    You are doing nothing but creating divisiveness whilst claiming to be colorblind and wanting harmony. It's a typical right wing game these days. Sorry, but I ain't buying.
     
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    Another one who can't believe it's real due to their own prejudices.
     
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    Seriously, this is how you interpret what I'm saying? This shows that YOU are unable to distinguish between elective behaviour, and skin tone.

    FTR, one is involuntary. THAT'S the one which shouldn't matter.

    Again, your inability to actually know colourblindness when you see it, is probably a result of you never having experienced it. Or experiencing it so infrequently that it's entirely alien to you. Pro tip: if you think it means 'protecting' certain people according to their race, you're spectacularly mistaken. It means just the opposite. It means regarding all people as equal, with no one group needing special consideration or care. It means giving no quarter, no slack, no excuses. It means assuming that all of us are equal(ly able to work towards social cohesion).
     
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    You're the one that keeps going on about color.

    This was a thread about the supposed difficulty black people must have texting....which is frickin moronic all on it's own....

    and you turned it into blaming black people for not "mixing" and separating themselves.

    And then YOU claim to be colorblind and wanting harmony.

    Get real, pal.

    Quit trying to paint me into a corner and acting like I'm the problem.
     
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    We can't hope for a colourblind world, as long as people keep 'defending' specific groups.

    And harmony can never happen as long as people keep segregating themselves along race lines. If you find 'whiteness' so abhorrent that you deliberately teach your kids to speak differently to the rest of the population of your region (including other POC, who haven't segregated themselves via dialect), then YOU are the problem.
     
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    When I served in the Army, for the first time I was exposed to blacks. A couple of blacks were at the same high school but I never met them.

    What a shock in the Army.

    It did not matter if they came from CA or AR or TX or CT or MA they all talked like they were raised in the same family.

    I know as a young kid, my accent in CA was based on my parents. They were raised in Oklahoma. i never then noticed my own accent but I am sure not that i am older that I did have the family accent and mannerisms of Oklahoma when talking.

    Blacks in the Army were not to my ears owning an accent from some area, they simply had the same accent no matter where they grew up.

    Listen to Ebonics.

     
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    This is a massive problem for any kind of future harmony and cohesion for your country. Doesn't happen anywhere else in the Western World, either. And it's ONLY African Americans. Other American born people of colour sound exactly like everyone else from the same region.
     
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    Blaming specific groups at every opportunity is a much better solution.
     
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    You think Barack and Michelle and their children sound how you describe?

    What about Don Lemon?

    I could name an endless amount of people.....

    This thread has gone just how the OP intended.

    Trump supporters.........:wall:
     
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    You Are Wrong.

    As simple as that.

    You Are Wrong.

    You're not even an American.
     
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    Acknowledging that ONE specific group CHOOSES to segregate themselves (and shows racial contempt for their neighbours in so doing) is an important step on the path to colourblindness.
     
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    It's true and you know it. The American born Indian kid from Boston will sound exactly like the white kid of Irish extract next door.
     
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    You are wrong. I live here...I know....some do, some don't.

    You are the one throwing all of these groups into a bucket. As well as all of America and all Americans.

    You are the one being the most prejudiced and promoting stereotypes.

    We are at an impasse.

    Just know that I'm not buying what you're selling.

    Enjoy wherever the hell you live where everyone is all the same.

    See ya.
     
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    I have often noted that those blacks holding university degrees in other than playing sports do speak like their white community speaks. Also I and others noted that blacks in Europe do not sound like the blacks I speak of. The Obama klan is educated and as to Don Lemon, I attempt to avoid him but see him from time to time on youtube. But never on TV.

    By the way, I also supported JFK, Johnson and Carter then Reagan, Both Bushes and Trump. Those were men not much like Trump.
     
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    BobbyJoe is one of those mystery posters who believes in having his profile blank. Keeping any of us from knowing the man.
     
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    We are not all the same. We eat different foods, we pray differently, we like different music, we have different attitudes to taxes and death, we all look different, etc. BUT, we should be a cohesive community above all else. A multiracial monoculture. Tomorrow land.

    Oh, and .. bye :)
     
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    I think we do 'know the man'.
     
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