Rape claims hit Islam scholar Tariq Ramadan in France

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  1. Space_Time

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    But all Muslims ARE like this....well, at least the Muslims who won't condemn Mohammad for approving of the rape of captive infidel women (as approved of in the Islamic texts), which is probably well over 95% of all Muslims.

    https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Rape
     
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    He needs to keep his pillar in his pants is what he needs to do!
     
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    Mohammad has never had the internet to compete with....until now. :)
     
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    You know, people wouldn't bring up the fact that not all muslims are like this if you would stop trying to make every topic even tangent to Islam into The Posting Crusade.
     
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    Islam breeds a culture of rape. a culture of treating women (and adolescent boys) as sexual objects who are put on this earth to serve Islamic men. a culture that forces women to completely cover their bodies because Islamic men are taught that virility, and an inability to control base impulses are the same thing.
     
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    Wrong.
     
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    Ah so the women lied about the rape.
     
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    So did anyone on “the left” (by whatever the definition is today) fulfil the strawman you presented as being your point in posting the thread in post #15? :cool:
     
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    So he lied from the start ? This guru has a lot of fanatical followers. Many women who filled a police report against him were harassed by members of the religion of peace.
     
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    The plaintiffs are the women.
     
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    That's what claims his lawyer, he is not the judge.
     
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    It's as strong as the case against him until the judge makes his judgement and assuming he is guilty as an argument to defend your stand only tells me the desperation to defend it.
     
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    Referring to the alleged rape, she said "he kissed me really hard... then for a few seconds he choked me, I really thought I was going to die".


    You rape somebody when you kiss?
    How on earth is the right going to spin this?
     
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    There is multiple police reports against him, not just one.Not impossible that it will end to nothing, considering that the disciples of Ramadan assault the people who filled those reports.
    Sexual assault is too against law in France.
     
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    Posting part of an encounter, that may well not even be rape. is hardly a defense.
    It seems several ladies came forward, and more are expected.
    He preaches a version of Islam that is not compatible with French laws.
    Not sure what that is, other than regular Islam.

    You're supposed to be a Muslim.
    Tell us why it is OK for Muslim men, to rape non-Muslim women.
     
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    You're not answering how kissing really heard = rape.
     
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    So post the part on this occasion that after kissing really hard it ended up in a rape.
     
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    I didn't make the post, but I did google the guy.
    Might want to do that yourself.
     
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    You're still responding to my comment. And I like to know how you rightwing people are going to spin a kiss into rape.
     
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    Oh, How do you do that. Rape needs penetration.
     
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    As far as I know, it's not rape, but sexual assault. I don't know what's exactly the laws on rape in France and I'm not a law expert, so I won't be able to says. If I remember well, rape in France is about every non consensual sexual act. So maybe chocking/kissing very hard could be qualified. Choking a woman is highly illegal, especially against her will. We would need a french law expert, and none of us are one. So I'm rather unable to says.
    The actual law articles could be found on "legifrance" a website who gather all laws article and we could find the law about rape, but honnestly, I'm too lazy to search in the code penal for 0 benefit because I have almost no knowledge in laws. So, if you're motivated.

    More seriously, even if I would like to see this guy banned for life, him and his whole organization of the muslim brotherhood, I'm not a seer and I don't know if he really raped those girl. Even if the fact that there is many testimonies against them, that the victims are living hell for that, that you can't win millions in a trial of rape in France and that Ramadan admitted he lied in the first moment, I suppose it's more likely he sexually assaulted/raped many women. But, in the end, let's hope that truth will be unveilled. Even in the end, it's only Ramadan and the girls who know what's the truth and they will be the only one who will know it.
     
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    Now he is saying it was consensual sex.
     

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