Rape claims hit Islam scholar Tariq Ramadan in France

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    You're just making it all up with nothing backing it up.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Why don't you inform us of French Law.


    He knows according to Islamic Law, he did nothing wrong.
    The woman was asking for it.
    Besides she needs 4 male witnesses.

    He should have done it in an Islamic country,
    Of course, he probably has already.
     
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  3. notme

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    Because I asked how kissing amounts to rape.
    The OP questioned how "the left" would spin it.
    So here we are.

    And you're responding to my question.
     
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    Dude.

    Kissing is not rape.. grow up.

    He posted part of a sentence, or investigation.

    Apparently the French government felt there was a case for rape,
     
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    That's what I though.

    As far as I can see... it's just the author of the article who calls this kiss "a rape".
    You disagree. So we're dealing with fake news.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Well, you can't see very far.
     
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    You don't see how kissing amounts to rape either.
     
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    You really aren't very bright are you.
    He's not being charged for kissing,
    There is more to this than one part of a sentence.
     
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    You aint very bright with moving the goalpost.
    I'm referring to "the alleged rape, she said "he kissed me really hard"

    The question was asked how the "left" would spin this. And it is:
    I don't see how kissing amounts to rape.

    You don't know either.
     
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    Don't you understand anything.
    The case is not based on,"he kissed me really hard", there is a lot more to it.
    enough for an arrest.
    We don't know French law.
    Maybe they cannot release other information.
     
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    A lot. Sure.
    So what in her account amounts to rape?
     
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    You just don't understand do you.
     
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    You just lost the argument, that's the stupidest thing I read today .
     
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    Neither do I, you are basing your argument on the fact he is Muslim so he is guilty. You lose. Easy
     
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    There was no argument, and that was meant to be stupid.

    They have the highest percentage of rapists, but they are not all rapists.
     
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    WTF are you even talking about.
    My argument was that the French government arrested him, so they have something.
    Obviously more than that simple statement.
    And no, kissing is not raping.
     
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    First you don't give a rats ass about the girl. There are hundreds of girls raped every day and the only ones you bring up is when a Muslim is involved.

    A woman is killed on average every week in Australia.
    Why not go on about these things, oh is it because they aren't committed by Muslims, well a few are and they get the extra treatment that sells adds to people like you.

    You did say ALL Muslim males.
     
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    I don't have any specific knowledge on french laws, but I'm sure on two things :
    _ Kissing someone against her/his will is lightly illegal but illegal.
    _ Choking a woman against her will (or a man) is highly illegal.

    Like I said, I'm just quoting things from memories and I have no specific knowledges on that thematic, I'm not even affirmative.

    But I understand, your pathetic little tribal instinct make you sure he is innocent , because he is muslim, and some of his potential victims are kuffar.

    I told you, I'm not sure of anything, and if instead of attacking me you would prove your claims that kissing against her will isn't rape according to french laws :
    https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/

    Here is the website with all french laws on it, find us the law articles on rape, and maybe you will be able to prove us that kissing and choking a woman against her will isn't rape or illegal in France.

    It's funny how you speak only of the kiss and forget totally about the rest. You're part of the muslim brotherhood ?
     
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    I think I clarified myself when I said.

    They have the highest percentage of rapists, but they are not all rapists.

    I also understand the sex with goats are consensual.
     
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    I didn't make the post,
     
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    just answer the question
     
  22. notme

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    So stop making it up already. The article claims it's rape because it involved a kiss and chocking.
    I never ever heard of such a thing before.

    You're actually assuming he's guilty because he's Muslim, not because it was proven in a court of law.
     
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    What else did it involve.

    It's just accusations so far, but apparently the French have enough to arrest him.\\

    The woman, a 45-year-old convert to Islam, told French newspapers that she had corresponded with Mr. Ramadan on Facebook and met him in his hotel on the sidelines of a conference to discuss religion. When she went to his room, she said, she was raped and beaten.
     
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    I am still interested in why you are doggedly following one particular alleged rape in France when every day there are hundreds of rapes committed which are much worse.

    Why this particular one?
     
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    Because the guy is a preacher.

    We have the same thing here with priests, TV personalities, celebrities, politicians, and other front page people.
     
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