Rape claims hit Islam scholar Tariq Ramadan in France

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  1. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    No you didn't.
    I asked you to bring up an example, not just make sh-t up.
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is two case, the "kiss story", we will call the case Henda Ayari and the other case we will call the case Christelle, it's the pseudonym that chosed the other woman.
    Here is the whole story :
    I'm not a translater, and I will try to do it anyway
    So yes, it's very easy to claim it's just a kiss.

    I never claimed that, otherwise telling the story on just quoting the kissing part and cutting all the violences and actual rape is a way of making fake news.

    It's justice, not a reality tv show. They don't give all the informations, especially considering all the islamic thugs who harassed the complainers. Maybe they don't want them murdered.

    I'm not Yasureoktoo. This thread is still about the possible rapes commited by Ramadan, not Aisha and Muhammed.

    The rest of your topic is just topic and basically fake news because you were pretended that the priests were not punished. And it's not "my" alt-right. I just notice you were much less angry when it was muslims shooting jews in France. Apparently you appreciate jews being shot, but only by muslims. But it's anyway not the topic.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    LOLOLOL

    I said in one or two sentences how, and why, the rape law in Islam, was created.
    You have ranted about it ever since.
    But you did not confirm or deny it. just mindless ranting.

    You are constantly ranting about pedophile priests, not even a subject here. Nobody brought them up but you.
    But when I asked you to name one who wasn't sent to jail, you never answered.
     
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    Not made up how the west deals with it's pedophile priests.
    Most get away with it. People who cover it up, are never put away as far as I know.
    You can marry a 10 year old child in the US even.
    Seems weird to make comments about Mohammed and Ashia as if these facts are fake.
     
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    Same sh-t, a childish rant that means nothing, show me a priest that got away with it., You can't, because you just made it up.

    LOL
    Muhammed made the law because of Ashia, You're a muslim, you're supposed to know that. how is that weird.
     
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    And I show you how the west deals with when Christian priests rape children.
    It's a good example and a fair comparison on the norms of today.
     
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    You didn't show anything,
    I asked you a half dozen times to show me.
    and you have shone nothing.
    Name a priest who got away with it, we can look it up.
     
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    On Friday, local officials in northern Kunduz province said a 10-year-old girl was raped by a mullah in a garden in the capital of the province two days ago.

    The girl has been taken to a hospital in Kunduz city and mullah Aminullah was arrested.

    The victim's family sent her to learn how to read and recite the Quran from Mullah Aminullah.

    The girl was weeping while explaining how it unfolded.

    "[He] forcefully took me outside of the mosque and tied my hands, legs and mouth," she cried. "I was yelling 'be afraid of God,' he continued to rape me."

    As she was crying reliving the rape, she said that at the end of the incident mullah Aminullah threatened her saying, "if you tell your family about this, I will kill them."

    The victim's mother said she sent her daughter to the mosque to receive a religious study. She added that mullah Aminullah arrived to their village two months ago.


    Now there are a couple options of what happens here.

    One that is deeply ingrained into Islamic lore is if the victim, or the victims family forgives the attacker.
    This is ripe with corruption, money or threats.

    Officials at the governmental hospital in Kunduz confirmed that the girl was raped.

    The tragic incident has followed major condemnations; Kunduz Provincial Women Affairs Department head, Nadira Giya, has asked the legal and judicial branches to severely punish the rapist.
     
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    A 10-year-old Afghan girl raped by a 45-year-old mullah could become the victim of an honor killing if her family were to cave under pressure by village elders.

    The New York Times reported Saturday the head of a women’s shelter, where the girl from the village of Alti Gumbad took refuge, received death threats for protecting the child. The girl was taken to the Women for Afghan Women shelter this month after her family threatened an honor killing. Police returned her to her family Tuesday.

    The rape was so brutal, the girl suffered a break in the wall between the vagina and rectum, an official indictment said. She nearly died because treatment was delayed, the Times said.

    The mullah claimed the girl was not 10 but 17 and offered to marry her. However, hospital records indicate the child weighed just 40 pounds and had yet to start menstruating. Her mother said she was only 10.

    The girl’s father reportedly is under pressure from villagers to kill her because “she had brought shame to them,” said Nederah Geyah, the former head of the women’s-affairs office in Kunduz. Geyah was forced to resign and move to another part of Afghanistan because she fought to protect the girl.

    Honor killings are still common in many parts of the world. Last month, Pakistani newlyweds were decapitated because they were married without the permission of the bride’s family. CNN reported the bride’s family lured the couple to Satrah in Punjab province where they were bound and killed.

    The United Nations has put the number of honor killings at 5,000 annually, but women’s-rights workers say the number is likely much higher.

    The Huffington Post reported many countries in the Middle East, North Africa and western Asia have no minimum sentence on the books for honor killings, which are not classified as murder. The maximum sentence can be as little as six months.
     
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    As we can see here, Rape is a part of the culture, and the victim is to blame.



    I recall when Muhammeds men captured a bunch of women for sale on the slave market.
    They wanted to have sex with them, telling Muhammed they would pull out before ejaculation.
    Muhammed responded not to, if they were to get pregnant it was Allahs will.
     
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    I just sourced it. You never proved the opposite. All you got is 1 priest here, 1 priest there. Doesn't come close to the amount of rape that was going on. And you're well aware that people are stepping down for what they covered up. That's not the same as being tossed in jail. It hardly happens.
     
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    The report said “almost every instance of abuse” was too old to be prosecuted, though two priests were identified and charged because of the report, including one who sexually assaulted two children monthly for several years until 2010.

    “We know that child abuse in the church has not yet disappeared because we are charging two priests, in two different dioceses, with crimes that fall within the statute of limitations,” the report said.
     

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