RECORD 4.3 million Americans Quit their job in August.

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  1. Condor060

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    You have a link that supports that. right? Or are you just making up your own claim?
     
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    Got forced into it, gotta pay rent bills,etc.
    Nope, there was no haggling involved
    Yep
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    Nope, never happen
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    No he doesn't
    Doubt it
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    Don't need to
    Never
    Nope, he's not my customer
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    Let's see.... You sell a product (your services) to your employer. He's buying those services from you, paying you. You are selling to him... but he's not your customer?
    Maybe if you treated him like he was you would find things get a lot better for you.

    I assume you have a Masters in Denial and Obfuscation like an MDO?
     
  4. Cybred

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    I'm not a product.
     
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    Your SERVICES are a product- YOUR product, and that is what you are selling. If you hire someone to mow your lawn, you are buying their SERVICES. YOU are their CUSTOMER. You don't own that person, but you do have a right to receive the services you pay for.


    So you are saying you offer no product, no services, and think you are entitled to a good paycheck for standing around in the way of those who work?
    Correct me if I'm wrong.

    What exactly do you think your employer owes you that you aren't already getting?
    Really like to know why you despise the people paying you.
     
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  6. Cybred

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    Why do you think workers should blindly worship employers?
     
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    Why do you think anyone wants that? Why would any employer want someone of that attitude contaminating the morale of his workplace? I wouldn't. Unhappy people are invariably lousy employees and detrimental to a company.

    I didn't say or imply anything like that, but obviously you feel a resentment toward your employer as if they expected that. When you carry a chip like that on your shoulder, you will invariably pick up reasons to justify it. I don't want anyone working for me with that feeling, so I would do them a favor and fire them, so they could find a job they were happy with. I'd help you on your journey; wish you well.
     
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    You and every other cons posts make it clear that workers should be kneeling at the feet of employers, thanking the almighty job creators for blessing them with the opportunity to slave away for a pittance for them.
     
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    Only if the employer challenges the attemt to collect such. And considering a lot of these jobs are hospital tech and the like they probably have substantial savings to rely on as well as spouses who still have jobs.
     
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    And the people who think that are never promoted or earn a better wage, because of the hostility, the poor work ethic and the negative impact they bring. They see the relationship as adversary, where they only win if their employer loses. Scared to death they might put in a nickel more value than they have to. IF they saw it as a partner thing, where they win by helping their employer win, they become much more valuable. They get raises and promotions- and other companies start trying to steal them away with better offers. IF you have something worth buying. Employers are always on the lookout for such people- the ones you want. the rest are just what you have to get by with while you are looking for valuable people. By the way- that's your choice; you can be worthless or valuable. All you have to do is adjust your perspective.

    IF you work for an unfair employer, think you are underpaid- Quit! Go somewhere and find an employer that thinks you are worth what you think you are worth. IF you can't find one... maybe you aren't worth what you think. You are free to sell your services for anything you can get. Just tell them how great you are and how lucky they would be to have you, and no doubt they will grovel at your feet.....
    But whining because you see yourself as a victim won't get you squat. Might get you fired or turned down, but it won't take you up the ladder anywhere.
     
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    Point proven.
     
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    Actually the inflation is wiping out the wage gains.
    https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2021/1...hain-is-more-dangerous-than-its-nukes-n422344

    This is wiping out the wage gains.
     
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    [​IMG]https://www.cnn.com › 2021 › 08 › 10 › business › raises-inflation-wages › index.html

    "Inflation wiped out America's pay raises" By Tami Luhby, CNN Business Updated 11:35 AM ET, Tue August 10, 2021 New York (CNN Business) Companies big and small are raising wages to attract workers..."
    With The Orange Miracle Worker at the controls the American Worker's pay increases consistently beat inflation, but, with bumbling Biden taking over he quickly screwed this up too.

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    College enrollment in the entire Pennsylvania state college program is the lowest it has been in mny years.
     
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    Saw an item on todays news Amazon gearing up hiring for Christmas offering a $3,000 sign on bonus.
     
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    News item today on Drudge says we face truck driver shortage of 80,000 workers just to meet current demand.
     
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    Ill agree with this.

    I have always been a proponent of the labor market establishing appropriate wages for labor based upon all the factors pertinent in any market.

    If the service industry folks can find more pay elsewhere as a result of labor shortages, pay should go up. Remember, this works the other way too, and I support both directions.
     
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    That is not true. Inflation is desired within reason.
     
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    For you perhaps. I don't agree.
     
  21. 61falcon

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    The FED has been artificially, through monetary policy, held inflation down for many years.
     
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    Then you aren't being logical about economics.

    Inflation is beneficial for any liability or non-cash asset. It's bad for cash savings.

    Our society is largely debt based, meaning purchasing a house in 1967 for $32,000 and having that same house worth $320,000 in 2010 is a good thing for economic growth.

    Debt stays the same, but through inflation purchasing power climbs. That results in essentially economic growth by reducing debt liabilities.

    If somebody keeps money in a savings account, that's bad... but that is about the only negative aspect.

    Most countries shoot for a 3-4% annual inflation rate. A zero or negative inflation, deflation, is far worse economically.
     
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    Not really.

    When the Fed rate is above GDP growth it is draining liquidity. When the Fed rate is below GDP it is stimulating money growth. Over the last 70 years the fed is nearly always stimulating.

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    BIDENOMICS: 'Inflation is Worse Than We Thought' and 'A Threat to Society'

    We told you this the entire time.

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    Destructive Fool, Way Out Of His Depth.​
    They are constantly lying, or as they call it "messaging" in an attempt to conceal their own inconcealable incompetence.
    She's a liar and she knows she is a liar, her defensive snark is her tell. Further, their "experts" are just more spinning liars. We told you the entire time that when they continued stimulus, when it was time for folks to return to work that the result would be destructive inflation and bare shelves and shortages, nearly always (except Vietnam) the hallmark of socialism.
    She's a liar and she knows it, her snark is her tell.
    They are incompetent lying fools. Vote them out. LET'S GO BRANDON!
     
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    Just like economists. Economics is not an exact science or even a science at all.

    Inflation is only good for debt and debt is not a good thing. It may be a necessary thing in some circumstances but it isn't a good thing. So that idea is out the window.

    Those are inflated dollars. The dollar has lost more than 90% of its value since 1967 thanks to inflation.

    You need to think that through.

    No saving money is actually a good thing. Inflation only makes it more expensive.

    It is called deflation and is only bad for people and institutions carrying debt. Governments want inflation because it allows them to pay debts with cheaper currency. It is not because it makes economic sense.
     
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    Except maybe in the Democratic Party!
     

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