Refund the police: After spike in shootings, Portland residents overwhelmingly support more police

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  1. Space_Time

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    Not a surprise. But will that happen? Could this lead to more unrest from BLM/Antifa:
     
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    They are a day late and a dollar short. Best of luck getting officers now. Idiots.
     
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    The twin terrorist cells BLM and ANTIFA will be reactivated come midterm campaign season because the left has nothing to run on, nothing. I expect an intense season of mass coast-to-coast rioting that -prediction- should kick off right around June 2022.
     
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    good police yes
    bad police no
     
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    oh there is more good cops out there to hire, losing the bad ones is not a bad thing
     
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    The vaccine mandates causing other police to quit their jobs may be their saving grace, otherwise the residents screwed themselves.

    What Leftists touch turns to crap.
     
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    Since bad cops make up a very small percentage of the staffed departments, they are losing their seasoned veterans by the thousands. Why? Because the left have demonized law enforcement and pushed to defund departments so bad, they just don't want to be a part of it.

    I work with state and federal law enforcement every day. One of the largest divisions (Charlotte) usually gets 300-400 returns on there hiring request. On their last request they got 10. Some departments are getting zero returns nation wide. Just like the left touted losing medical staff that already had Covid and have a stronger immunity because they refuse to take the vaccination, now we have 47 hospitals that have closed with 300 more on the brink.

    Just an FYI, there aren't any trees out there that law enforcement officers and medical staff are falling off of. When you demonize them over the acts of a few, the smart ones go away so as not to be caught up in some fake media claim that ruins there lives. I don't blame them.


    Historic Police Exodus In Cities Most Impacted By Racial Justice Unrest, New Data Shows
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemima...ustice-unrest-new-data-shows/?sh=7cae5a988cf2

    In Seattle, Police Chief Adrian Diaz announced a “staffing crisis” at his department earlier this week as another 66 departures in the first few months of 2021. A historical record low

    The police department in Louisville, Kentucky, where the shooting of Breonna Taylor sparked months of heated protests, has seen a more than 20% decrease in the size of its police force, with nearly 190 cops retiring or resigning.

    The Louisville Metro Police Department has already seen 43 departures this year, rapidly outpacing the department’s new hires and leaving the agency in “dire straits,” described David Mutchler, a spokesperson for the Louisville Metro Officer Union.

    Portland has also seen what local news outlet Oregon Live described as “one of the biggest waves of departures in recent memory” with 115 police officers leaving since last July (over a third resigned) and nearly 140 vacancies on its force of now under 1,100 officers.
     
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    I read an article the other day that funding for many police departments across the US has been increasing recently due to skyrocketing crime. But, the media squash these stories as much as possible so that few people know and they sure as hell won't acknowledge that defunding the police led to increased crime.
     
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    The MSM is ignoring all of this because THEY perpetuated that crap. They gave these idiots platforms instead of squashing their dumb asses for ignorance and lies. Hope no police work oin those **** holes. Deep what you sow. I just feel sorry for those living there that don’t have a voice. Get armed.
     
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    Can anyone stop the violence:
     
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    Why would the MSM ignore this when democrats said it was republicans who wanted to defund the police?

    It seems the MSM knows there’s only so much BS they can sell and that lie quickly faded away.
     
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    Give us six examples where any entity actually defunded the police

    And how you going to arrest Antifa, you going to pinch a website, it would be like arresting QAnon
     
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    Imagine being a person who actually supported this? A democrat lol. The amount of idiocy this idea was is astonishing, yet dems completely lacked the ability to see the consequences of defunding the police. Some were stupid enough to think that he money taken from police and out back I. The community would offset the increasing crime rate lol.

    And imagine being stupid enough to think that all these officers quitting must be bad cops. Having such a simplistic, surface level perspective is so Democrat.

    oh dems, you are just so wrong so often I can’t believe there isn’t more self reflection going on.
     
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    Lol dems pushing for defunding the police for months m, and actually had the audacity to say it was Republicans lol. They really have no respect for thier voters.
     
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    Once again, give us just six examples where any entity actually defunded the police

    Dems didn't push for defunding police, rather, the right wing media reported that Dems pushed for defunded police
     
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    Dems objectively supported it, they said it themselves. Just because you have failed to do your research doesn’t all the sudden make it everyone else’s job to inform you. And I’d the places that did defund them, it’s Democrat shitholes that did it.

    the audacity lmao
     
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    I've posted more than six over the past year, and I've actually cited the legislative initiatives and executive orders.

    Milwaukee defunded the police.
    https://www.wpr.org/120-milwaukee-police-officers-cut-under-mayors-proposed-2021-budget

    You can look up Minneapolis, Portland, Los Angeles, Chicago, and others on your own time.
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea...cil-approves-budget-with-minimal-15362949.php

    I'm not going to redo all that research. You should already have done it.

    Is asking how they're gong to arrest Antifa members are real question? They have arrested some Antifa and QAnon members. They've let a huge number of Antifa members go even though they were caught in the act or on camera.
     
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    "The Police Department budget will remain virtually the same as this year," certainly doesn't look like anyone is defunding the police there, and your "I'm not going to do redo research" pretty much says you can't deliver six entities, and that is just six, not a lot, just six, but you will continue to say Dems defunded police

    Antifa is a website on the dark web, it isn't anything, Billy Barr said Antifa was a big player in the summer violence last year ago but of all the arrest the Justice Dept made not one of them mentioned any membership in Antifa, it is a bogeyman created by the right wing media, similar to the Boogaloo Boys on the other spectrum
     
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    No, some Dems supported it, a small percentage of Dems, and just like your cohort here, you also can't give us even six examples where it was actually done, meaning, it all amounted to nothing more than another innuendo recycling in the right wing media
     
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    It’s a fact that libs and their politicians called for defunding the police, the crazy thing is the politicians who were the worst of the worst, specifically the Squad, spent tens of thousands of dollars on private security. I’d like to see how much crime councilors prevented as they replaced cops in lib cities. Also, Minneapolis was forced by a judge to hire cops after the city refused to replace the ones who quit or retired.

    These US cities defunded police: 'We're transferring money to the community'
    In 2020 budget votes, advocacy groups won over $840m in direct cuts from US police departments.

    More than 20 major cities have reduced police budgets in some form, and activists are fighting to ensure that is only the start

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/07/us-cities-defund-police-transferring-money-community
     
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    Cause Democrats did defund the police. Why not post the whole quote? They defunded the police stations and cadet training and reallocated it to healthcare benefits, salaries and personal security. They also reallocated it to other non-police programs and called it police funding (i.e. Mayor's security, social work). Additionally, the budget was suppose to increase due to previously allocated funds to increase the amount of officers, and there was also a decrease in the amount of overtime pay. So basically, the Democrats defunded the police in Milwaukee by shedding officers and cutting overtime, and yet they spent the same same amount of money.

    “Many people are probably wondering, how can it be that the police budget is almost the same as it was last year, and at the same time 120 police positions will not be filled next year? The answer is we cut salaries by $8.5 million, but police health care and other personnel costs have risen and chewed up those budgetary savings,” said Barrett in delivering his budget address.
    https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2020/11/...t-raises-property-taxes-and-fees-cuts-police/

    This article provides two cities, New York and Austin, that slashed police budgets. They give citations.
    https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com...ce-are-trying-to-quietly-restore-the-funding/

    This is another article detailing how many other cities defunded their police stations, and reallocated the money to fund their own personal security. You can only catch things like this when you read the budget breakdowns.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/adaman...-their-own-police-protection/?sh=57b25f71d86b

    Burlington, VT defunded their police.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/burlington-vermont-defunded-the-police-now-its-paying-cops-to-stay

    This is a list of 20 cities that defunded the police. It was provided by the Republican Judiciary Committee. You can go verify all the information with this RealClearPolitics article that provides secondary local news and governmental primary sources.
    https://www.realclearpolicy.com/art...heir_own_police_security_details_785764.html#!
    https://republicanleader.house.gov/...ies-That-Have-Defunded-the-Police-.docx32.pdf

    As far as Antifa is concerned, there are videos of members and org meetings. Your assertion that they are just a website is utterly ridiculous. They have chapters across the United States. https://torchantifa.org/chapters/
     
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    "IF LIBERAL POLICIES WORK WHY DON'T LIBERAL POLICIES WORK?"
     
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    Cause we already did it hundreds of times over the course of this year. Go look at the above articles just posted by myself and Steve N, and then check out the citations in those sources. I gave you 20. It took me five minutes to find the sources. You're delusional if you believe Democrats didn't defund the police.

    You're just rehashing one of the more recent Democrat fake news talking points that's already been dismantled by earlier threads.
     
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    Because they’re not designed to work, they’re designed to either appease or profit from.
     
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