Republicans Identify their weakness: Americans Who Can Vote!

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Republicans have honed in on the glitch in our democratic system - ordinary Americans having a say in their self-governance!

    The former guy had identified the problem when he tried to disenfranchise entire counties that had indulged in a personal betrayal after four years of Trumpery, and he then tried threatening Republican office holders to get them to falsify the tally to fit his desires.

    Unfortunately, Republican judges - including Trump-appointees - laughed the former disingenuous, totalitarian solution out of court, and integrity reared its ugly head to kill the latter.

    Summoning his goons to attack Congress to prevent its certifying the democratic verdict fizzled as well amidst mayhem and carnage.

    In 2021, an obscene level of Americans voted, the security of the elective process acclaimed by cyber-security experts, the Attorney General, and others, and just look the the result! - the blight of participatory democracy wreaking havoc with Republican control!

    Radically reducing the number of people voting would actually ease the strain on poll workers - fewer ballots to count, and less opportunity for goons to threaten them and their families!

    Maybe, the GOP could institute a sudden "flash mob" approach to elections - time and place only confided to the "right people."

    In any event, it'll be fun watching them contrive pretexts to impair the ability of an American to exercise her civic duty.

    Georgia Republicans seek to end Sunday early voting,
    a popular election method for Black voters

    Georgia Republicans seek to end Sunday early voting, a popular election method for Black voters

    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis calls for restrictive new voting laws
    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis calls for restrictive new voting laws
    Might the exposure of all those fake claims of "voter fraud!" impair Republican politicians' populist zeal to suppress the populace?

    Nine Election Fraud Claims, None Credible
    Nine Election Fraud Claims, None Credible - FactCheck.org

    Hardly. A legitimate vote can be thoroughly repugnant!

    What'll they come up with next?

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    Esdraelon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Say it loud enough and long enough and it will still be BS. If it happens again the nation is apt to come apart at the seams and "winning" isn't going to matter no matter WHO "wins". That's the part you folks seem genuinely unable to grasp. Flip the script, put yourself in the group who wanted investigations or court reviews and were UNIFORMLY IGNORED, and tell me you'd accept that. Right...
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Participatory democracy is the best system of governance ever devised.

    The fewer barricades that are erected to impede the essential right and duty of the citizenry to participate the better.

    The exceptional security of our recent national election that had the highest voter turnout rate among eligible citizens since 1900 is an affirmation of democracy, an achievement to be celebrated.

    In some democratic nations, voting is viewed as an essential duty of citizenship and is mandatory. Personally, I prefer the voluntary approach of the U.S., but oppose the obstructions some politicians attempt to contrive that target certain, select sectors of the American People.

     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    The paranoia that gives rise to animosity to facilitating participatory democracy is unjustified.

    Assessing the Impact of Absentee Voting on Turnout and Democratic Vote Margin in 2020

    ...First, the dramatic increase in absentee voting in 2020 contributed to increased voter turnout. Even after controlling for 2016 turnout and swing state status, the prevalence of absentee voting in a state was a significant predictor of turnout in 2020. Eased absentee voting rules were not the only reason for increased turnout in 2020, but they did make a difference. Second, increased absentee voting did not favor Joe Biden’s candidacy. After controlling for 2016 Democratic vote margin, the prevalence of absentee voting in a state had no effect at all on 2020 Democratic vote margin.

    These findings suggest that efforts by Republican legislators in a number of states to roll back eased absentee voting rules and make it more difficult for voters to take advantage of absentee voting in the future are unlikely to benefit GOP candidates. Not only is there no evidence that absentee voting leads to widespread fraud, there is also no evidence that it favors Democratic candidates.

    https://centerforpolitics.org/cryst...n-turnout-and-democratic-vote-margin-in-2020/
     
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    I'm not too fond of the voter suppression activities done by Republicans in office. It's a crime, IMHO. I hope they get voted out of office by their constituents.

    I know that won't happen, though, because it's become very political that only Democrats benefit from free elections. To say otherwise? Just who do you think you're kidding? The right (How many? I don't know) still thinks Democrats have stolen the election.

    That's why I expect there to be a red wave in the next "elections" as many voters get their votes disenfranchised.
     
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    Democrats make voting so easy to defraud that nobody believes the results.
     
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    Translation: Republicans are so easily duped by evidence-less claims of massive voter fraud that they will believe anything their handlers tell them to, claiming tens of millions of illegal votes without being able to support their claims in any way. Then they blame their irrational credulity on others.
     
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    Democrats make voting so easy to defraud that nobody believes the results.

    Democrats want our democracy to operate on the honor system
     
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    Answer this please.

    1. What is wrong with showing proper identification to register to vote ?

    2. Why shouldn't voter registration rolls be purged of voters who have died or moved out of state or different districts ?

    3. What is wrong with a two step verification system for absentee ballots?

    4. What is wrong with having certain closing dates for registration before an election to allow verification of the applicant?

    5. What is wrong with the applicant to make sure his or hers ballot is correct before submitting it?

    6. What is wrong with making sure voter registration is done in a verifiable government building in front of a state legal authority?

    7. What is wrong with making the person voting deliver their own ballot to the state?
     
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    8. What is wrong with making all voters swim through a pool of hot lava with fireproof crocodiles to get to the voting machines on the Democrat side?

    None of these things you listed has anything to do with election security and you know it. Why do Republicans now hate old people?
     
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    Correction, no REPUBLICAN believes them when they LOSE.

    I actually have Republican friends, I have never yet met one who believes they ever lost an "honest" election.

    Republicans think EVERYONE is staunchly Republican. ALL Democrat votes were actually cast by the Illuminati Lizard people
     
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    The way you can guarantee that all registered Democrats get to vote is to mark them down as having already voted in perpetuity for whoever the Democrat candidate may be. This way, they never have to leave home, lift a finger, or worry about being robbed by evil Republicans.
     
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    Voting should be mandatory. Voluntary voting is how blacks were disenfranchised for over a century.

    Though the Dixiecrats would have probably made the penalty life and gotten yet another way to re-enslave black people.

    I truly cannot understand why we found it perfectly ok to have what amounted to universal conscription for several decades and yet found it onerous to require people to vote every 2 years.

    (Maybe that's why we had universal conscription for several decades when most "free" countries didn't)

    Oh wait, I know why. It's the same reason voting is held on Tuesday, because that is the most inconvenient day most Republicans could think of.

    It's also the same reason the polls used to have banker's hours, (so nobody but bankers could vote)

    IMO there shouldn't be any controversy about turnout, It should be 100% of there are some fines due.
    It's no more inconvenient than library fines IMO
     
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    Hot lava and crocodiles....seriously? It's called maintenance and a tune up, dude. Georgia voters have more leeway than voters in the Democrat Presidents home state.
     
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    What leeway? What car maintenance? What ARE you talking about?

    I got 3 votes and you got 5. I win, we are using the Electoral College System
     
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    Black people can still vote Saturday. Nothing prevents them from voting if they really want to.

    Honestly who really wants to work on Sunday anyways? People need a day off.
     
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    All good questions. I'm sure they will have no answers for them.

    These new laws in no way make it harder for people to vote.
     
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    And Democrats have identified their weakness: Their voters are too lazy to vote!


    A lot of these people probably shouldn't be voting in the first place.

    If you have to push and cajole people to vote, make it so they don't even have to get up off their couch, or you have to start handing out free food & drinks to motivate them to show up to the polling places, these people are probably not going to have taken the effort to be politically well-informed.
     
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    I didn't see any evidence in that article that it's "a popular election method for Black voters" in particular.
    Besides, many of these Black voters in Georgia would be in Church at that time, so they would probably not be voting then.
     
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    And only well-informed voters are going to be able to stand for hours in the hot sun with no water.

    I'll ask again, though I don't think I'll get an answer this time either, WHY do Republicans hate the elderly?
     
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    Ummmmm, actually Tuesday voting in November pre-dates Republicans.

    From Wikipedia:

    By 1792, federal law permitted each state to choose Presidential electors any time within a 34-day period[3] before the first Wednesday in December.[4] A November election was convenient because the harvest would have been completed but the most severe winter weather, impeding transportation, would not yet have arrived, while the new election results also would roughly conform to a new year. Tuesday was chosen as Election Day so that voters could attend church on Sunday, travel to the polling location (usually in the county seat) on Monday, and vote before Wednesday, which was usually when farmers would sell their produce at the market.[5]
     
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    Made sense in 1792. makes ZERO sense now. Move it to a Saturday so people don't have to take time off work. Also make pre-poll and postal voting earlier. The more people who participate in elections the better.
     
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    Oh, I agree. I think Aussies have the right of it when it comes to voting.
     
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    Yes. There are plenty of things we don't do well, but we are top notch when it comes to elections. There is no special skill to it, just set up the right systems.

    A few years back we had a stuff up in counting for senate seats in one state. A bundle of about 1400 votes out of 1.5 million wasn't counted. The Electoral Commission immediately picked up that the votes hadn't been counted and decided that as that was enough to alter the results the election had to be run again. It is the first time I can remember anything like that happening, but it shows how robust the system is - they picked it up when .1% of the votes didn't turn up.
     
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