Require immigrants speak English?

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Require immigrants speak English?

  1. No, this is a free country and they can speak whatever language they like.

    9 vote(s)
    23.1%
  2. No, but require English be the language of official govt. business.

    18 vote(s)
    46.2%
  3. Yes, this is America and you should only speak English!!!!

    2 vote(s)
    5.1%
  4. Speak your language at home, speak English in public!!!!

    14 vote(s)
    35.9%
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  1. APACHERAT

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    Compared to the hermit state of California today, Texas is still free.
     
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    English is the official language and I don't need government to tell me so. However, 32 states currently have official language statutes. At the time of this countries enslavement, Jay made comment:


    There was no discussion during the constitutional debates on language. Seems by Jay's words that there need not be a discussion as all spoke English. Many of those involved in the coup of all time (or as Patrick Henry stated: "I smell a rat") were fluent in many languages. Jefferson wrote many times of the pleasures of reading French and Latin works in their native language.

    And all government documents including outside the 32 states with ordinances and the federal must have English documents mandatory, other languages optional, that is official.
     
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    And who suffered for it? Kudos to your wife for toughing it out and helping a fellow human being, she would be an excellent role model.
     
  4. AlNewman

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    Normally opposite the "left thing".

    "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates
     
  5. BahamaBob

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    This is also one of the reasons healthcare is so expensive. First is the expense of bringing in a interpreter. Second, if she suffers of dies from lack of treatment while she waits, the institute is likely to be sued.
     
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    America was an English speaking country when all 13 colonies were mainly British descendants. Even then and especially now, there were pockets of people that spoke their native tongue, Germans, French, Irish (sometimes not sure if Irish, Welsh or Scots actually speak English), Spanish, and many others.

    Just how does welfare translate into the language a people speaks. Poverty is universal and migratory, always traveling to the most for the least. You want to solve the immigration problem, then cut off all welfare. You arrive with no means to support yourself, well buzzards need to eat too. Language is only a barrier if you let it be.
     
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    I for a while worked for a foreign national out of Miami, meetings were held in whatever language got the job done. Then I transferred to International where many languages were used. Mandating someone to do something counterproductive is a business that is a loser, time to find real work.
     
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    Yeah....she is awesome. Those who suffered for it would be the patients that she could not help while she dealt with her. And her own frustration.
     
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    Never been to South Florida, LA, any area close to southern border. It is only now that a kid is the golden ticket that many have come out of hiding and can send their children to free school.
     
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    FREE COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Since the history of migration into this country, the first generation has historically not learned English. When my great-great grandparents got here, they only spoke Polish until they died. Their kids, however, all learned English. Not sure why all of a sudden we'd require first generations from any country to learn English. We never have before.
     
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    Those are the effects, not the cause. Follow the money, after all it used to be yours, it is power that it buys.
     
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    Can you define "better life"?
     
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    Thanks for the story, but that has nothing to do with what I said.
     
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    Oh I certainly agree with both of those.
     
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    You still did not answer the question of which period you are referring. And again the different history, none of the conquered people became Roman soldiers? Is vulgar Latin the result of not speaking the language well or just all the cuss words one normally learns first if associates teach you a language?

    All those barbaric tribes were the downfall of the Roman Empire, not part of it. They drained the oligarch. How about after the failure when the Muslims showed up, people learned Arabic fast as did a good portion of Europe, some 400 years wasn't it?

    So let's go back to that base question again, by what right do you get to tell others how to act, violence?
     
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    Not really, it's just a matter of degree, sort of like slavery. Nobody would argue that one is not a slave if someone owned all means of that persons life. The question being at what point is one not a slave, 50, 40, 25, 10 percent owned?

    I would definitely have mucho grande respect for Texas if they did what the West Coast crazies are crying about, become independent. Texas would prosper where the crazies would collapse.
     
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    The late roman empire (350-476). Downfall of roman empire have multiple causes, the first is the decadency of the roman population, but yes, barbaric tribes were part of the roman empire. A lot of them pledged allegiance to the roman empire, like the battle of the catalaunian plains where many barbaric tribes fought with the roman empire against other barbaric tribes under Attila rule.

    Even if at the moment it enabled the roman empire to win, the barbaric tribe ruled over the roman empire quickly thereafter.
     
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    My wallet says it's a slave to supporting illegal aliens in California.
     
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    That is not the reason healthcare is so expensive. For that you would need to define healthcare, can you? Expense for an interpreter, only in a commercial environment that profits from the ills of others.

    Sued, always blame with no responsibility and where lawyer's have a right to make money too.
     
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    Once was, didn't last long did it?
     
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    Sure did, you said required and that is not the case, is it. No multinational company would ever make that mandate or else they are not a multinational. You made a generalized statement that is not true, period.
     
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    Then you should start a threat talking about your International Man of Mystery scenario, because that's not what this one is about.
     
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    Actually it had but one, all else are the effects of the action in motion. Decadence of a society, like today; constant warfare, like today; welfare nation, like today; civil turmoil, like today. The cause has always been the same, the psychopathic tendency to take advantage of the ignorant masses and control them. It has always been so throughout history, a republic lasts about 250 years and then collapses into monarchy/oligarchy. The rule of the tyrants vary but it always ends the same, rebellion and a republic to start all over again.
     
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    But all the rest of the leeches are ok? There is no such thing as an illegal alien, the problem lies with society as a whole.
     

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