REVEALED: Israel’s IDF Used Passenger Airliners as Cover During Christmas Day Attack <MOD WARNING>

Is this a sample of that exquisite British irony Zionists are not able to grasp?

Not funny.

One more attempt to smear me will send you to the ignore folder asap.

You provided an opinion: yours. I still don't know what international law has to say regarding such matters, hence I can't say yea or nay.

 

What a banal and obtuse comment. The International Court of Justice is part of the UN making this body the primary interpreter of international law.

 

Israel is a bully and a world class manipulator. "Want" has nothing to do with it. It's just a fact.

 

Israel is not liberal. They are imperialists who steal land, routinely slaughter innocent Palestinian women and children, violate the territorial integrity of their neighbors, and aggressively manipulate the political systems of western countries for their own selfish gain.

 

They did have proper anti-ship weapons. The USS Liberty was struck by Israeli forces with torpedoes. In case you were wondering, torpedoes are designed to sink ships.

And the Israelis broke off their attack only after the USS Liberty sent out a distress signal to US Naval forces in the area.

The overwhelming evidence PROVES that the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was knowing and deliberate.

So you do not believe the US Sailors who were actually there during the attack? They are just liars? How patriotic of you.

 

You didn't even know the name of the US vessel that came under attack. And then you falsely claimed that Israeli forces didn't have proper anti-ship weaponry. Clearly, you have no idea what actually happened during the incident in question, so why do you keep pretending like you do?

Many people have provided a reasonable motive. You are just ignorant of the truth.

Oh, wow... Israel actually gave America something in return for our extremely generous support. How wonderful of them.

Anyway, nothing Israel ever does will make up for their deliberate and treacherous attack on the USS Liberty. It is absurd and offensive to suggest otherwise.

 

The attack on the USS Liberty was not an accident. It was deliberate. And there is a mountain of evidence proving that it was deliberate. A few moments ago, you didn't even know the correct name of the US vessel that was attacked by Israel. You thought it was the "USS Pueblo". Given this, your attempt to label other members "idiots" is rather ironic.

 

Eyewitness testimony is considered the LEAST reliable. I never said the sailors were liars.

Are you claiming the Israelis pilots who claim they made a mistake were liars?

 

Don't be a jerk. I knew full well it was the Liberty the Israelis attacked and not the Pueblo that the North Koreans attacked and seized (and still have by the way). It was about the same time period and I had been reading about the incident with the Pueblo recently.

And the initial attacks were by Israeli jets with strafing weapons and ………...napalm. Napalm is NOT considered a preferred weapon for attacking warships. If the attack on the Liberty was premeditated, why were the Israeli planes using napalm?

 

The reliability of eyewitness testimony depends on the quality and quantity of the witnesses. And in the case of the USS Liberty, we have lots of high quality witnesses who all tell the same story. Not only that, but multiple lines of independent evidence corroborate their story. There is simply no good reason not to believe their version of events.

You're saying they're wrong. That necessarily implies one of two things: Either they're liars or they're delusional. So which one is it?

Yes, I am calling them liars. They knew exactly what they were doing.

 

Why would they attack a U.S. ship? You can't seriously believe the BS that Israel wanted to trick the U.S. into attacking Egypt? By the time the Liberty was attacked the Israelis had already routed both the Egyptians and the Jordanians and were preparing to finish off the Syrians in the Golan. (which the Liberty was in no position to monitor)

The U.S. sailors were not liars or delusional. What they did was make mistakes that are common at a time of facing mortal peril.

 

You're the one calling other members idiots. Try following your own advice.

So you confused two totally unrelated events.

You said the Israelis did not use proper anti-ship weaponry. Your claim is totally false. The Israelis launched several torpedoes at the USS Liberty, one of which hit the Liberty.

 

They did not use torpedoes in the initial attack.

 

I believe what the evidence points to. And the totality of the evidence clearly indicates that the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was done deliberately and knowingly as part of a false flag operation meant to frame the Egyptians.

Nasser's Egypt was a major obstacle to the ambitions of the US and Israel. Nasser's Egypt represented pan-Arabic unity, anti-imperialism, and cooperation with the Soviet Union. A nuclear strike on Cairo would have destroyed Nasser's government and crippled his pan-Arabic agenda throughout the Middle East, leaving Israel in a far stronger position than it would be otherwise.

What mistakes?

 

You said they didn't use proper anti-ship weapons. You were wrong. They did use them.

 

They were mistaken about the Israelis machine gunning the life rafts. They were mistaken about whether the American flag could be seen by Israeli pilots and sailors.

And you can't seriously believe that Israel was trying to provoke a U.S. nuclear attack on Cairo!!??!?!

The U.S. was never going to use nuclear weapons against Egypt or any other nonnuclear nation. Especially not with massive numbers of Soviet Navy vessels in the immediate area (they outnumbered the U.S. 6th fleet)

 

So what?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/sources_of_international_law#

UN resolutions are not listed as sources of international law.

 

According to the international court of Justice- Israel flying attack missions in Syria is violation of international law - and using planes full of civilians as human shields is a war crime.

 

Seriously? I wasn't aware that the allegations regarding the use of civilian planes have been proved. Care to provide a source?

I also wasn't aware that Israel has been dragged to the ICJ, judged, and sentenced. Care to provide a source?

What is the international law Israel is violating?

 

Watch this as you clearly don't know any of the facts!
"USS Liberty: Dead In The Water" (BBC Documentary 2002)

 

You are free to support the country of your choice however, you made your true loyalty clear by trying to justify the deliberate mass murder of American G.I.s by its most insidious, treacherous & parasitic adversary.
That you consider the gift of a few junk planes, 50 years ago a satisfying exchange for America's $ Trillions & thousands of American lives is as disturbing as it is revealing.
Additionally, you exposed your lack of knowledge about this particular act of egregious Israeli betrayal by not even knowing the name of the ship the Israelis destroyed in what was unquestionably a deliberate massacre of American G.I.s.

I assert that it was a planned & deliberate attack because the Israelis knew the identity of the ship after 8 hours of close reconnaissance prior to the attack.
If this additional Israeli war crime were accidental, why did Israel launch the initial attack using unmarked Mirage jet fighters to destroy the ship's ability to call for help or monitor additional Israeli war crimes, & cease fire violations occurring on land of which you are also unaware such as Israel's mass execution of Egyptian POWs?

You seem confused about Israel's motive behind their attempt to mass murder 294 American witnesses to Israel's massacre of Egyptian P.O.W.s & cease fire violations.

Israel's bungled motive in attacking the Liberty with unmarked planes was very much the same as Israel's bungled firebombing of US Installations in Egypt known as the Lavon Affair.
The motive of both betrayals was to deceive the US into attacking Egypt & joining in Israel's long planned land grab.

What is just as disgusting as this, additional Israeli betrayal is the complicity of AIPAC controlled politicians & politically motivated generals etc in the cover-up that has apparently duped more gullible individuals to this day.

 

There was no mass execution of Egyptian POWs at that time. Nor was there any cease fire yet to violate by either side.

The Israeli jets were marked. The Captain of the Liberty knew immediately the identity of the attackers.

 

Discussion of certain facts makes you very uncomfortable it appears.

 

You realize not all SAMs are created equal, right?

The Syrian military could have withheld firing high altitude SAMs at the fighters and airliner while at the same time engaging the missiles with low altitude SAM systems.

 

The Israeli pilots would attack a US ship because they were instructed to do so by superior officers. Have you never served in the military?