Reviewing Atheist 'Lack Belief' in Deities theory. <<MOD WARNING ISSUED>>

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  1. Etbauer

    Etbauer Banned

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    lol, something is getting confused. What exactly are you saying here?
     
  2. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Still dodging the question! LMAO
    for the 6the time:
    "Do you deny atheists believe no G/god(s) exist?"
    Check this out folks, proof lackers are fake atheists!
     
  3. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    then its impossible for anyone to claim atheist or theist isnt it :)
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I lack belief in gods. That's it, cant deny there are some people others believe to be gods, there are, I cannot argue their existence I can argue that they are gods in any meaningful sense. By the way, never heard anyone who denies he can confirm that PP exists! It just goes to show that you are prepared to make any statement regardless of the truth to support your position! Really you never looked into whether PP exists, too funny!
     
  5. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    not true whatsoever
    I am agnostic I have no reason to look at pp, you on the other hand claim to be an atheist and are terrified to claim God(s) do not exist for fear you may be struck by lightning, that is not an atheist. Clearly lackers are fake atheists.
     
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  6. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope you are dodging I gave you an example of a god that exists, no atheist would deny PP exists, only whether he was a god. You always miss that nuance because it screws your argument!
     
  7. Etbauer

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    I think I see, which really is basically semantics. What you can say is that belief in a god is irrational. That while you can't say with 100% certainty that there is no god, you can say it is close enough to 100% to effectively be the same thing.
     
  8. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you have no reason to consider PP, I have shown him to be thought of as a god, you can easily prove his existence, how can you claim to be agnostic when the knowledge is available?
     
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    I lack belief in gods, I am an atheist.
     
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    Oh, sorry, then you are a theist.
     
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    since there is no hard evidence either way both are irrational.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You really must learn to read the entire sentence, it is hilarious watching you flounder over simple issues like not just picking out the words you want to see!

    Nope you are dodging I gave you an example of a god that exists, no atheist would deny PP exists, only whether he was a god.

    You always miss that nuance because it screws your argument!
     
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    y
    you claim all atheists admit pp is a god. fair enough. lackers believe the god pp exists. I dont have a problem with that only that lackers call themselves atheists since they clearly are not.
     
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    Except you know, the actual definition of both is belief in god (theist) and lack of belief (atheist)
     
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    Not exactly true. Evidence for a god is roughly at or below the level of pretty much everything anyone has ever thought of, and everything we have never thought of. On the other hand, scientific explanations that require no magic have explained pretty much everything that a god was invented to explain. So, reasons to believe in one random explanation of an infinite other possibilities is approaching 0. Believing in a god is irrational, and belief that there is no god is the rational choice.
     
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    No you are making up falsehoods again in order to dodge the difficult stuff, I claimed no atheist would deny PP exists! I also stated that they would question whether he was a god! Some might accept the historical Jesus existed, but no atheist would believe he was a god because they lack belief in gods! The only reason you will not accept this is wilful ignorance.

    It is good to see you are falsifying what people say still.
     
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    Not without hard evidence, hence the reason I am agnostic, no hard evidence no belief from me
     
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    Quoting what you said is not falsifying anything but saying it is a falsehood when it clearly is not, is falsifying.
     
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    You have not claimed to be an atheist, repeatedly? You have not made statements in support of the theist point of view? You have not claimed to have seen any post that does not support your bigotry?

    Making continual false statements to try and support your fibs does nothing to support your claims. They only contribute to exposing the truth of what I have said.
     
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    since when is being an atheist bigotry?
     
  21. Etbauer

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    Yeah... so here: Suppose we have a roulette wheel with 100 billion slots. If we suppose god is the number 69, is it more rational to believe that it will land on 69, or to believe that it will land on something other than 69? Now, you can say you don't know, that there is still a small chance that it actually will land on 69, but they are not remotely equivalent.
     
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    As usual, your views are extremely warped and wrong. You have even started to contradict your own statements. Seek help.
     
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    True, but that is all he has in his arsenal.
     
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    As has been explained enough times for even you to understand, atheists lack a belief in this god of yours. That does not mean that we lack belief in everything, just this alleged god of yours. Try to comprehend.
     
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    Nope, you falsified it, you ignore the fact I claim that atheists would not call him a god, you take the first part of the sentence out of context to the previous statement.

    You continue to dodge the fact that there are people such as Jesus who may of existed and others thought were gods, to deny their existence would be illogical, only to deny that they were gods makes sense. It is the nuance you must continue to wilfully ignore in order to keep this farce of a thread going!
     

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