Riggleman: Meadows’ text trove revealed a “roadmap to an attempted coup” | 60 Minutes

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    This is total nonsense. Stacey Abrams is responding to specific acts that were taken against democracy by the candidate that ran against her when he was in control of key voting law. He engineered his own win!!

    She has NEVER suggested that we need to distrust democracy. Trump leads the Republican party, and they are CONSTANTLY working to claim that our American democracy is CRAP.

    Refusing to allow those in line to vote to be given water to drink after many hours standing in line is a way to block many from being able to vote.

    Removing voting precincts from the neighborhoods where Republicans hate the voters is a clear way to make it harder to vote.

    Unequally supplying voting equipment in areas Republicans hate is another way of engineering long lines, thus making it harder to vote for those people than it is for areas where adequate equipment is provided.

    Preventing vote by mail (which has existed for more than the last 50 years) makes it harder for many to vote.

    How many of these do you need, before you realize that Republicans are working to defeat democracy???
     
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    City blocks of Portland were burned and looted by BLM and antifa. Also Baltimore, St Louis, Philadelphia, Kenosha, Minneapolis, and more, $Billions in damages and people hurt and killed by BLM rioters. Can’t blame that on Trump.

    And there was no violent assault on “Portlanders” by Trump or the city govt. The rioters were allowed to run loose. That was the problem, and normal Portlanders suffered from rioters burning their businesses.

    I thought you were smarter than your post indicates.
     
  3. WillReadmore

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    I have relatives in Portland. And, you are pumping total BS.

    The local government was TOTALLY AGAINST Trump dumping national guard units that rampaged without any control, legitimate objectives or coordination with the successful progress of the city and state approach.

    Those units absolutely did violently attack those who were PEACEFULLY protesting.

    Federal troops weighed in and started shooting protesters even though the protest was purely peaceful and well contained. The link below documents that those doing the violence were Trump's federal troops and they were using serious force. It documents a well known photojournalist whom they shot in the eye.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/us/journalist-portland-protest-federal-agents-trnd/index.html

    Your problem is that you demonstrate NO interest in actually learning the truth.
     
  4. Battle3

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    Absolutely, but do you know the founders did not believe in direct democracy because it leads to the tyranny of the majority? That’s why the USA is supposed to be a constitutional republic, not a “democracy”.

    The USA is not a “democracy” now thanks to the political establishment, and democrats openly want to replace the constitution. Both parties are corrupt. No democrat and 99% of republicans should hold any office or position on govt. Trump is a bad choice the best of a very bad lot.
     
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    You are the one who took a deliberately stupid post seriously, you took the bait and continue to gnaw at it LOL
     
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    Trump sent NO troops to Portland, Trump left it up to the mayor and governor and they let the rioters run wild. Federal law enforcement defended federal buildings only, and yes they shot less than deadly ammo at rioters who threw bombs at them, tried to burn down the buildings they were in, beamed lasers in their eyes.

    CNN? The same CNN that had the reporter stand in front of burning cars and said the rioters were peaceful?
     
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    And again you take the bait!!!!!! :deadhorse:
     
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    I think it's quite telling when one reads a post like this^, quite a few words but totally meaningless.
     
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    Oh, I get it: when a Republican questions the system, it's treason and an attack on democracy. When a Democrat does it, it's in defense of democracy. You can't have it both ways...lol
     
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    First of all, this is the Political Opinions & Beliefs board, so "all I have to do it think it" 8). I don't think you can have a rally like January 6th 2021 (which is well documented - if you haven't seen video's of it you must live under a rock) without hoping to get people worked up. TRaitor tRump wears his emotions on his sleeve, you don't need to be a mind reader. I don't know about "allowing him into their heads" but if you aren't paying attention to the multiple attacks tRaitor tRump has made on our Nation then you might want to evaluate what Government By the People" means to you.
     
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  11. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The facts is that there is nothing he said/wrote that a reasonable person could define as a call for violence. I can certainly agree that he works to exploit division, but he and his party does not have a monopoly on that political strategy.
     
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    In your humble opinion, not mine.

    Nobody does it better.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fair enough, but humble opinions do not equal guilt. At this point, you have nothing.

    On division, it looks like dems have a slight lead.
     
  14. Battle3

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    Exactly! That was the entire point - to see if lefties would respond to a post that other than not agreeing with you was without any substance at all. It was bait. And not only did you all prove lefties are emotion driven trolls it’s generated a host of responses!!! LOL
     
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    At this point YOU have nothing, but your opinion. 8)

    And I have mine ... BUT ... I have hours of video backing my claim and you have ... 1 1/2 seconds.
     
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    So you are admitting to be trolling/gas lighting in your own posts, well done! There maybe hope...
     
  17. Battle3

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    No, that’s not trolling. That was bait. And you lefties took it hook line and sinker.

    The hypothesis was that lefties are driven by feelings not fact.

    The experiment was a post that had nothing other than to disagree with the lefty claim.

    And wow did you fish rise to the bait.

    Hypothesis proven!!!!
     
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    Well if you are reduced to bait posting, that's nothing to be proud of but I wouldn't expect more from Trumper extremes.
     
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    The total sum of your videos is still zero.
     
  20. Battle3

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    Got you again!!!!! When will you learn? Probably never so i Will let you off the hook.

    Thanks for playing!! LOL
     
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    The doge you are so desperate to hunt with is lame. Need a better routine with more cerebral effort if you are constructing straw men. Another Trumpian sandbox flail.
     
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    Not hardly ... pilgrim! :bye:
     
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    So trump is in jail? Thanks for the update. I thought he was still living in FL. (And in the minds of many)
     
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    :bye: <- means I've quit reading your posts in the thread, for future reference.
     
  25. WillReadmore

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    This is just confused.

    The fact that we are a republic is not related to the issue of democracy. Those are two very different things.

    And, then you go on about direct democracy, but that is also NOT the issue as we've never had direct democracy. We have representative democracy. So, why are you talking about direct democracy?

    THEN you argue that we aren't a democracy(!!!) because YOU don't happen to like the representatives that were chosen by the people to represent them?

    This is just nonsense. We ARE a representative democracy.

    The question I'm asking is:

    Do you want that to change? Or, are you ready to support it?

    And, if you want to end democracy, what do you want instead?
     

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