"Brexit warning: No-deal vegetable tariffs could cause 12,400 EXTRA deaths - shock study A STUDY has claimed 12,400 people could die as a result of Britain leaving the European Union without a deal." Not 12,300 EXTRA deaths, or 12,500 EXTRA deaths, but 12,400 EXTRA deaths. Anyway, moving on the real news . . . https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...opean-union-fruit-and-vegetable-imports-brexi
BMI finally gone tits up......driving down from Norwich and heard on the news they'd part blamed it on Brexit?
I think it was skewed to blame it on Brexit, but that it was really a Project Fear nuance of negativity by the Remainer camp, and that includes the BBC. In fact I understood it to mean the uncertainty of leaving, and that has been brought about by May's faffing about for the past two effing years. We all know that businesses need to 'see into the future' so they can make plans for it, and Flybmi weren't able to do that. And there are probably plenty of others also.
And today's . . . "THE EU is planning to send food aid to feed Britain’s poor in the event of a no deal Brexit, sources in Brussels have revealed." I'd like to tell them where to stick their food aid? https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...atest-news-eu-food-aid-no-deal-brexit-eu-news
"UK and Ireland retailers warn of 40% tariffs on food in no-deal Brexit Consumers could face meat, fish, fruit and vegetable shortages and higher prices" https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-warn-of-40-tariffs-on-food-in-no-deal-brexit
And today's bad news . . . the worst so far I think? "Any form of Brexit will hurt the NHS, but a No Deal will be worst, warns leading medical journal The Lancet. Brexit deal desperately needed to avoid disastrous consequences for the NHS Lancet says any Brexit will be negative for the NHS but No Deal is to be avoided Leaving EU to leave hospitals struggling to fill jobs and supply medicines, it says. In a blistering editorial, the respected Lancet publication says any form of Brexit will negatively impact the NHS - but no-deal is to be avoided at all costs. blah blah effing blah I wonder what the quid pro quo was for the author of that fusillade of hysteria? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Deal-worst-warns-leading-medical-journal.html
this is not even yesterday's news.....did you look up the Lancet article the DM is referring to? Its 2 years old!! It was published in 28th September 2017! One would have to ask the question what have they been doing since then to plan for their nightmare scenarios?
Well spotted. To dredge it up now proves they're determined to give us Brexit lite! If this doesn't shout 'Jobs for the boys and girls when we've finished at Westminster.', I don't know what will. How hollow 'Brexit means Brexit' sounds now.
Honestly Cerberus ... where is the difference between this bull**** lie and those lies told by the Brexit clowns before the referendum was done? In my opinion the same ranking of total bull**** fake news to betray the UK people about truth! But anyway ... in meantime I am total over with this rediculous bad "BREXIT-Monthy-Python-Show" in the UK and give a crap about if Brexit happens or not and if it happens, how it it happens ... and even if a second referendum will be done or not as Corbyn told now. Make what you want in the UK, your issue ... but woe you Brits start to complain later that all bad things which happened after, are the guilt of the EU. It's all your decision to leave or not to leave and so your own guilt only!
The thing that those simpletons who want a second referendum don't seem to understand is . . . what happens if the second referendum has the same result as the first one - then what? A third? A fourth - until there's a Remain majority?
Attention irony: Perhaps you will automatically make a new referendum in combination with each parliamentary election in the future?
Neither do I... What I find only funny about the whole thing is that there is an agreement, which the majority rejects in your Parliament ... OK, that's the way it is. This agreement is no longer renegotiable in itself, but the EU has said clearly that you can talk about the main issue of your problem with it - the border issue Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland with all what is part of it - again separately without reopening the entire agreement. But what comes from your glorious politicians ... no matter which party ... as a reaction? 1. A long list of what you do not want to have and do ... but not a single list, what and how you want it instead! 2. An order and May to renegotiate the agreement, but this is not to be renegotiated and even without a statement, what you really want to do and have otherwise then ... see point 1. I really like the British humor, but this here seems like a bad remake of the "Benny Hill Show" from my childhood ... only it's not really laughable!
You'll see more of what I think of the fiasco on the Western Europe forum. I wake up each morning wondering if it can possibly get any more embarrassing or humiliating than the day before.
Accepting that the divorce process so far has been an absolute fiasco; actually fiasco would be a positive description of the process so far! The UK leaving is the first time this has occurred with the EU so there is no frame of reference from which to base any actual outcome. Most countries in the world are not members of the EU, they are sovereign nations with their own laws, social systems and trading partners etc. in other words they function within their own right. I can't see such a concept being bad thing? For me it would be better if there was a border in place. The only reason we have this absurd discussion about a border is that May has no majority to do anything without the bloody Irish vote. They are a waste of time and effort and in an ideal world we would tell them pull their bottom lips over their heads and swallow. Put up the bloody border and then we have the basis for a trade agreement with not only the EU but the rest of the world.
I can't believe we have to ask a bunch of un-elected foreign bureaucrats if we can trade with a country outside of Europe.
@ both.... One moment please ... please let us stay on facts without rumpling and kidding against the EU and UK as usual... As a future non-member of the EU, you want to trade custom free with the EU ... in concrete terms with the EU in general and here with EU member Ireland, and you as we are not against it. But because you also want to continue to have custom-free trade with the EU as before, and that means that as a non-EU member, you must make an agreement with the EU like everyone else has done like Norway and Switzerland ... with the EU as a whole! This agreement with all points clarified and settled in detail, as it exists with Norway and Switzerland ... and since a few weeks even with Japan came into force ((JEFTA agreement) ... does not exist, because your glorious negotiation clowns and also your glorious Theresa May were not able and not really willing at this time to make such a full agreement which clariefies all issues as with the others. But May still wants duty-free trade with the EU, and thus Ireland too ... and the EU and Ireland, too, want that in principle ... so, in this agreement, especially with regard to Ireland, this passage was made as it is now and it is not liked by your Parliament! So don't blame here the EU, blame your Primeministers and those politician clowns in your country who always can only tell waht they all not want, butcan not tell what they want and how they want something! Ask Theresa May and these clowns in your parliament, why they won't or can't make such a full comprehensive agreement with the EU as the others have done with the EU!
I would imagine that is unlikely in respect of all imports and exports and in reality it would be part of a general agreement; as I understand it, customs agreements are separate agreements to trade agreements under WTO rules? It seems that in order to agree customs union with 3rd counties (which the UK would be) then you would need to have in place the various proof(s) of harmonisation agreement(s) (EC regulation compliance) much like Australia has in order to import car parts. I would imagine that since the UK is (at this time) compliant with all EC regulations and assuming that the harmonisation process meets the compliance criterion in terms of certification boards, oversight boards and ongoing compliance committees then those imports/exports that seek or need "customs union" agreement should be negotiable? Are you discussing the political agreement? The trade agreements are seperate from this. All that May and Co. are doing is trying to agree the divorce settlement, what comes next is the trade agreements etc surely. I agree they've fcked up royal! It is not in our interest to have an open border agreement with Ireland. I can see problems with this arrangement including issues with potential trade agreements being a complete mess with this tagged on. Agreed! The EU is only doing what is beneficial to the EU as it should, however, once the dust has settled it then goes to the trade negotiators who are generally more switched on and should, hopefully, be able to quietly undo any crap that the politicians have put in that create obstacles.
"Brexit 'likely to cause cancer test delays'" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47462762 AND another one - they're coming thick and fast today . . . must be getting close to 29th? "No-deal Brexit would plunge UK economy into recession – OECD" https://www.theguardian.com/busines...t-would-plunge-uk-economy-into-recession-oecd
Apart from the fact that the divorce is not only related to the sector trade, but is comprehensive and affects many things ... The point is that there is duty-free trade between the UK and the EU that both want. But that has nothing to do with the WTO ... as the Brexit clowns continue to say ... the point is that a duty-free trade requires a complex trade agreement if the UK continues to want barrier-free access to the EU single market. The point is that the EU demands completely justified, that the UK has to comply with all the many EU regulations, norms, rules, etc. in the case of its goods ... AND ... also has to make sure of itself, that it does not serve as a goods transit country for others where these things are not fulfilled. That's what Norway and Switzerland do, and why should not UK do that too? That's the problem ... and why your PM Theresa May was not able to finalize that in the agreement and postpone it ... so that's the stupid situation with the border with Ireland! Sorry, wrong approach: It's about a comprehensive deal and trade is just part of it ... and especially in trading you Britons are the ones who play the brake block with a no ... but can not call an alternative or just can say what you want, without a no go demand towards the EU! It's been over 2 years since you've decided on a Brexit referendum. So idiotic and because of unbelievable lies that happened, it happened and now it should finally happen. However, these two years were also wasted incredibly instead of a reasonable agreement. I do not want to say that the EU was not to blame ... but when I think of a lot of things that came as a demand from the British negotiator ... AND ... as these are demonstrably more of a No anyway Deal with Brexit, seriously raises the question of whether there was any interest in an agreement on the part of the UK!
"Brexit news latest: Theresa May to give speech in desperate last-ditch plea to EU with just days to reach deal" Look Missus, we all know this is a done deal already, and that you're just trying to brainwash us into believing it's a matter of life and death. So ffs just get up off of your knees woman, because it's in the bag, and not only do you look ridiculous down there, it's reflecting on the rest of us too. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...l-speech-vote-eu-latest-updates-a8813406.html
