Right Wing Economics

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  1. james M

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    this is true given that communism slowly starved 120 million to death
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes they would have because that is where the fastest growing market for goods is. It significantly shortens your supply chain, shipping costs, and warehousing costs to be physically close to your market.
     
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    totally dumb companies moved there for low wages and low taxes!!
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Except the cost of manufacturing goods in China is almost on par with the cost of doing it in the US. It is less than 10% difference. Google the cost of producing an iPhone. it is like $10 in labor and parts and a couple hundred in software licensing. The rest is marketing, distribution and the like.
     
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    its still a difference and you forgot the tax savings!!!
     
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    Economics.

    Left and right.



    Right wing.

    Economics is the study of human behaviour. We practise economics to work out what people are doing.
    To spot trends.

    Once we know what people want, we can then better position ourselves to offer it to them.


    So, we like the free market. Because people freely choose to buy stuff and from this we can recognise what they want and what they are willing to pay for it.
    They vote with their wallets and we can quantifiably measure that vote.

    It's great economics.


    Left wing.

    Economics is a tool of governance.
    A method of controlling people.
    We can use our economic monopolies to decide/encourage or manipulate human behaviour to our advantage.

    We don't like the free market, because we don't like people to be free to rule themselves. What the people want is not important. What we want for them is important. People are inherently evil/stupid and cannot be trusted to make good decisions for themselves.


    So for the right economics is used to better understand human behaviour and for the left it is used to better control human behaviour.
     
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    Just a thought, but how about getting money in return for something?

    Instead of taking money from dead peoples grieving relatives, why not... get a job?
    Earn some of your own? Produce something more useful to society than grave robbing.
     
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    taxing death (thus encouraging people to waste their money while they are alive) is perfectly liberal!!



    There are two distinct classes of men - those who pay taxes and those who receive and live upon taxes.
    Thomas Paine

    "We still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping at the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised to furnish new pretenses for revenue and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without a tribute."

    -- Thomas Paine



    Jesus told the chief priests, “I tell you the truth, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you.”
     
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    For the right, economics is capitalism or innovation. Either you offer the best product in the world to improve the world's standard of living at the fastest possible rate or you go bankrupt!
     
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    You do know that there is no tax until the estate is worth MILLIONS, right??? Then only the amouint above the MILLIONS mark gets taxed.
    What a stupid comment - "get a job" then what? You'll gripe about income taxes.
    If you want no government, there's always Somalia - no pesky government there....
     
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    Stop clowning conservatives and libertarians want to limited government, they don't want lawless of anarchy like in Somalia.
     
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    So, stealing from the dead should be beneath even liberals. Why not get a job and you won't have to worry about earning a living by being a thief?
     
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    Why not stop a man with millions from providing for his family when he's alive too. Giving your kids millions of dollars is a huge advantage and giving them your IQ religious values and work ethic is a huge advantage too Shall we make that illegal to .
     
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    How?
     
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    Large industries will surely take advantage of Trump's slashing of environmental regulations to line their coiffures. They
    will become larger, stifle competition, and then raise prices. Regulations were put into effect for a reason when corporations
    ran amock during the Robber Baron years and more regulations were added over the years as industry took advantage of the environment, etc.
    The wealthy industrialists (Rockafeller, Mellon, Clark, Vanderbilt, Carnegie, etc.) were engaged in bribery of government officials and other nefarious activities. This can easily repeat itself as the environment gets hammered (fracking, hunting, polluting) without any oversight.
    This, of course, creates instability and income inequality as the working class are controlled to enrich the wealthy. It happened,
    and will happen again.
     
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    How will they stifle competition?
     
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    I don't live in the same country as you. The tax rate here is not the same.

    If you want to prey on dead people, you move to Somalia.

    Or.. become a productive member of your own society. Get a job and contribute. Increase your families capital and pass it on to the next generation so that they have increased chances in life.

    I'm not working my arse off to make millions of pounds for you. Never going to happen.
    I will however work my arse off to make millions of pounds for my wife and kids. Love motivates me to be more productive than I need to be for my own personal ends.
    But I don't love you, so you will have to provide for yourself
     
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    They can control the pricing of goods to stifle competition.
     
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    wrong of course, in a free Republican country controlling price upwards invites competition. Do you understand?
     
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    It's not coincidental that libcommie govt is most active in the black community where it has all but destroyed love and family!
     
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    libcommie Marxists always say corporations are evil and always need more regulation. Thats what Marxism is.
    Here are the facts:
    The Robber Barons: Republicans Greatest Shame!

    From: The Myth of The Robber Barrons by Forest McDonald


    Edward Collins $33,000 per Atlantic crossing (page 7)
    Cornelius Vanderbilt (robber barron) $15,000 per Atlantic crossing

    Collins $600 NY to California
    Vanderbilt (robber barron) 150 NY to California( page 12)


    "James J Hill cut freight costs from 90 cents to 44 cents a pound" (page 34) and still made a profit while the heavily subsidized Union Pacific and Central Pacific always lost money

    "Coopers charged 2.50 per barrel Rockefeller cut his to $.96" (Page 86)

    "From 1865 to 1870, the price of kerosene dropped from 58 to 26 cents per gallon,
    Rockefeller made profits during everyone of these years" (page 87)

    "Before 1870, only the rich could afford whale oil and candles, The rest had to go to bed to save money. By 1870 with the drop in the price of Kerosene, the middle and working class people all over the nation could afford the one cent an hour that it cost to light their homes at night".( page 87)

    "When Andrew Carnegie entered steel production in 1872, England dominated world production and the price of steel production was $56 per ton. By 1900 Carnegie Steel was manufacturing steel for $11.00 per ton and out stripping the entire production of England!" (page 126)
     
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    Please tell me how to control the price of goods. I think that might be helpful to my income.
     
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    we'd have to switch to libsocialism so the govt would let you raise prices and keep away the competition that would under capitalism respond to your high prices.
     
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    Right of course. The industrial complex will become so large that they will have the ability to lower prices and force out the competition, as did happen during the robber baron days--5th grade history.
     
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    Exactly. Industrialists could produce for much less than the competition. And I am not a lib/commie, chief. Regulations are put into effect when there is abuse
    and the public is affected by that abuse.
     
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