Roberts Upholds COVID-19 Restrictions on Churches, Scolds Kavanaugh

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member

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    Roberts gives Kavanaugh a piece of his mind.
    Thank you Roberts, the mild mannered moderate republican on the court.
    Religious freedom was never about killing people, that's nuts.

     
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    Please provide a link to the article you excerpted from.
     
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    Looks like it's from the left wing slate.
     
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    That’s your view, mine is Roberts is a back-stabbing, pragmatic baboon with eyes covered, ears blocked, and lips twisted.
     
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    It is, and essentially fake newz as Kavanaugh wrote the minority opinion joined by Gorsuch & Thomas. Alito did not comment probably because roberts writing turns his stomach ( < that's as much fact as the slate article's conclusion re: Kavanaugh).
     
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    What is fake about it?

    Thomas had an excellent ruling that followed fact and logic and did not treat one institution with special privilege.
    I thought the right was always against special privileges... More projection I guess...
     
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    I think Roberts is being blackmailed
     
  9. BaghdadBob

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    It's good to know the left is aok with abusing Constitutional Rights. That would be the same peeps that are currently rioting claiming spuriously that their Rights are being abridged.

    Perhaps the lefts' Rights to free speech & assembly should be suspended for a few months until the law abiding right are sure about their security. That means no more amazon compost, ny slimes, slate, cnn nbc, cbs, "news" etc. because for "security" reasons. That would be kool with the left because in "emergencies" it's aok to suspend your God given Rights. Right? Or, is it only ok when someone else's ox is being gored?

    Grrrrrrrrrr. :evil: :evil: :evil:
     
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    What constitutional rights do you believe are being abridged?

    Also, you didn’t answer the question, What is fake about it?
     
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    Amendment I Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    ^ The highlighted sections are being abridge by the SCOTUS.

    So, it is only appropriate that "abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press" and "to petition the government for a redress of grievances." be abridged for the left. And, for good measure, not even any peaceable assembly for the left, too.

    That Roberts scolded Justice Kavanaugh. In every split decision there are an "alternate" set of facts highlighted in the opinions written. Just like Kelly Ann Conway spoke of for which she was disparaged by the left as apparently no one is allowed in leftism to consider other factors.

    There are no carve outs to limit / deny those Rights when adults can be expected to act responsibly.


    There is no scolding going on, and roberts & the Court lefties are dead wrong yet again. So, please no whining about Rights from the left. K?

    And, you sure as hell avoided answering mine. Don't bother. I'm really not interested in your "alternate" facts. :)
     
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    The right to peaceably assemble, the contravention against restricting religious freedoms, I mean, golly, there actually is a list. So, help me understand why, as a liberal, you cannot recognize the rights you folks always suggest that you're in favor of....
     
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    They're in favor of them being in control over you, and eph your Rights.
     
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    Exactly right. The left are proving that taking rights is their goal. Subduing liberty is their bread and butter these days.
     
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    Precisely. We see this periodically from the man . . . making me conclude that the leftist powers that be have some low-level blackmail material on him that is strong enough to convince him to have contempt for the Constitution on occassion but not quite enough to permanently turn him into -- say -- Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
     
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    Notice the “congress shall” — can you point to me when state governments became congress according to the constitution?

    I disagree. I do agree that churches should have been allowed to hold service as they see fit without any government intervention, but not because it is in violation of the constitution.

    I don’t answer questions when a poster tries to gaslight, obstruct or project — especially when they have jumped over simple questions I have asked.
     
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    But, but gawwwwd.....
     
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    Roberts wants to be liked by all, regardless of the Constitution.
     
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    The 14th Amendment. The Bill of Rights apply to the states as confirmed by virtually thousands of SCOTUS decisions since its ratification.

    Please stop bothering me with your nonsense.
     
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    The right to peacefully assemble was not why it was brought before the court. The argument made was “restrictions on public gatherings treated houses of worship worse than many businesses” — which is false and was evidenced by the ruling.
    Religious freedom does not mean the ability to do whatever you want, it means the ability to believe whatever you want — and since this was a local and state ruling — not congress, I don’t see how it is in violation of the first Amendment.

    So help me understand why, as a neocon, you cannot use basic reading comprehension and logic in your argument?
     
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    SCOTUS has also ruled in every instance that public safety can be taken into account.
     
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    The rebuttal to that is thus:

    In the words of Justice Robert Jackson, if a ‘court does not temper its doctrinaire logic with a little practical wisdom, it will convert the constitutional Bill of Rights into a suicide pact.’”

    End of argument. Sorry, you are just wrong, as were 4 of the nine judges.

    Y'all need to climb down from your silly pseudo self-righteous indignation perches, no one is 'abridging your religion', it's a virus, it can kill you, and it's high time you slap your self out of that idiotic fake high minded bullshit and understand that when enemy jets are shooting bullets, you don't argue 'freedom' when the word from above says 'take cover', you shut the **** up and take cover.

    I think the Lord, if there is such a thing, would agree.
     
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    So go ahead and peacefully assemble.... you have that right...

    You don't have the unlimited right to determine WHERE you assemble...
     

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