Roe v Wade: plaintiff's death highlights weakening of abortion rights in US

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  1. AlifQadr

    AlifQadr Well-Known Member

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    Norma McCorvey realized that abortion is nothing but First Degree Murder.
     
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    Where? When?

    ...and more importantly why?


    Did you have proof she did?


    Her opinion, like yours, doesn't count since abortion is a legal medical procedure.
     
  3. AlifQadr

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    Correction, to my knowledge, there has never been a law passed by the United States Congress (both Houses; Bicameral) that has made abortion legal on the federal level, so it is still ILLEGAL! To the contrary: https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...-federal-funds-for-any-abortion-coverage.html
     
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    Educate yourself...abortion is legal under the fourteenth amendment, that's why we have three branches of government. The Supreme Court is one. The states can regulate abortion
     
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    Abortion IS NOT LEGAL by any stretch of your or any one else's imagination, not on the federal level anyway. The U.S. Congress, you know, the Bicameral portion of the federal government, has NEVER LEGISLATED THE LEGALIZATION OF ABORTION! PERIOD, CASE CLOSED!
     
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    So, have you called the cops to report these murders ?


    BTW, your link says something I already know, federal funds aren't used for abortions.


    That doesn't make it illegal to have an abortion.
     
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    Have you called the cops to report this illegal activity yet?


    BTW, women by the millions are still having abortions :nana:

    Murder is the ILLEGAL killing of a person/human being by a person/human being....so abortion can't be murder :)



    AlifQadr said:
    Norma McCorvey realized that abortion is nothing but First Degree Murder. """


    When? Where? ...and of what importance is her opinion?
     
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    I think you should share your legal knowledge with the Supreme Court and all the states. They're just not as smart as you are obviously and don't know about the 14 amendment.
     
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    Renee and every other person who thinks that they are wise,

    The point of me posting the link is that Abortion is not legal in these United States, being that the USSC can neither write nor legislate law, being that they are not a legislative body. The highest courts and court of the land can only make a decision on the case(s) brought before them. I would have figured that you already know this, but obviously I was incorrect in such an assumption. The Decision of Roe v. Wade Country, Texas was a legal decision in that case ALONE, as with all other USSC cases. The Highest Court can only render a decision that is viable and applicable to the case(s) before it. Where your and other people’s confusion begins is thinking that the decision applies to all cases, which is not true at all. When a similar case comes before the court, it references previous cases that are similar in stature to see if they can apply the previous decisions to the current case; attorneys also do the same. When this is done it is called CASE LAW which is only valid within the circuit of which the court(s) and cases originate or are determined. States and attorneys do not bother to work so they rely on the court’s decision, which is lazy. They may also practice this lazy style of practice to save money for the town, city, state where the case(s) originate causing confusion, consternation and bewilderment. This is not a good practice because it leads to the false impression that the High Court of the several states of the highest court of the nation has the ability to legislate law, which is outside of its scope and boundary.

    As to your immature quip about calling the police because of abortions, only shows your utter contempt of the foundational principles of this nation.
     
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    Why don' t you prove YOUR contention is correct by calling the cops and reporting these "murders".

    WHY don't you prove your contention in a court of law? Take it to the Supreme Court !!!!

    NO, you can't even address posts!

    Murder is the ILLEGAL killing of a person/human being by a person/human being....so abortion can't be murder :)

    YOU couldn't address that FACT.



    You don't even use the quote feature to let anyone know you responded!


    your utter contempt of the foundational principles of OUR nation is noted......
     
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    The Supreme Court of the United States is the highest federal court of the United States. Established pursuant to Article Three of the United States Constitution in 1789, it has ultimate (and largely discretionary) appellate jurisdiction over all federal courts and state court cases involving issues of federal law plus original jurisdiction over a small range of cases. In the legal system of the United States, the Supreme Court is generally the final interpreter of federal law including the United States Constitution
     
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    Educate yourself!
    And your lack of understanding is embarrassing I hope you will share your legal knowledge with everyone who disagrees with you from the president down..
    Abortion in the United States is legal, via the landmark case of Roe v. Wade. Specifically, abortion is legal in all U.S. states, and every state has at least one abortion clinic.[1][2]However, individual states can regulate/limit the use of abortion or create "trigger laws", which would make abortion illegal within the first and second trimesters if Roe were overturned by the US Supreme Court. Currently, 6 states have trigger laws and 3 other states have laws intending to criminalize abortion.[3]
     
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    Stop the ad hom, please. The point of legality has been made, and you simply don't like that you can't change any of it.
     
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    The states are regulated by federal law on what they the states can regulate. SCOTUS will not overturn Roe.
     
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    Why don't you stop with the insults and try being honest and addressing posts rather than just screaming "it's MURRRRRDER!"

    that doesn't prove a thing....

    IF YOUR argument was valid you could call the police , report the murder and they would respond...



    You have given no proof abortion is murder....except a link you thought said abortion was murder but really said that federal law forbids taxes going to abortions which you would've known but you didn't read your own link!:roflol::nana:
     
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    I wonder what these eager beavers who want to destroy women's rights are planning to use to outlaw abortion?

    They will get a fight from decent people, it won't be as easy as they think even if RvW is overturned which is unlikely since over half of Americans believe it should be legal.

    The minute they say a fetus is a person with rights it all gets shot down again :)
     
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    Roe v Wade being overturned is very unlikely.

    If it were, almost 30 states would immediately pass abortion rights laws, and they and the rest of America would begin a struggle in the other states for it.
     
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    ...and what would they use as an argument to overturn RvW?

    That's what these nincompoops don't ever consider when they think that because this person or that person got elected, or somebody died , that RvW is in trouble...
    There hasn't been an argument yet to overturn RvW, why do they think one will magically appear ???
     
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    Fox, the antis believe that if they believe really really really hard, that magically it will change.

    They won't accept that no grounds now exist for a change by SCOTUS.
     
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    No, you know what murder is?

    It's driving a large vehicle into a crowd of BORN innocent people or blowing up groups of born people, innocent children, PREGNANT women and their fetuses, women, and men...THAT is murder, they are BORN, they have rights and some MURDER them for no good reason...
     
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    No, she did not. Any argument that says abortion is murder can be dismissed out of hand.
     
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    I think maybe you quoted the wrong poster ??
     

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