Rogan has covid

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  1. gringo

    gringo Well-Known Member Donor

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    Joe Rogan, a comedian and podcaster has gotten covid

    https://www.npr.org/2021/09/01/1033485152/joe-rogan-covid-ivermectin

    and he treated the virus with cow dewormer and vitamins

    where did the treatment of a cow wormer for Covid originate??

    hopefully, whoever has the scientific proof Ivermec is a safe treatment for covid,
    will be a guest on his podcast
     
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    is he treating it with ivermectin packaged for treating livestock or is he treating it with ivermectin packaged for treating humans? Cuz it comes in different packaging with different restrictions and different dosage recomendations, but both are the same stuff. As with many other meds that work for both humans and other animals. Also ivermectin isnt only used as a 'dewormer'...

    ...but then you already knew that, didnt you.

    https://www.drugs.com/ivermectin.html

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sure he is using the one in a fancy package.
     
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    Many people are using Ivermectin to prevent or treat COVID. Some are anti-vaxxers but some are concerned that there is no treatment plan for people with COVID outside of hospitalization and the use of ventilators. MOST people don't get the royal treatment of Regeneron like President Trump. The government has purchased more and DeSantis is recommending that Flordians request that if they get sick. I don't know if it's offered free though. If not, it probably is outside the average person's budget although I don't see that being a barrier for Rogan.
     
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    not sure how 2nd hyperlinked itself as 1st link, but heres second link not hyperlinked:

    Ivermectin, ‘Wonder drug’ from Japan: the human use perspective (nih.gov)
     
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    The drug is the same, no matter the packaging.

    The drug was certified many years ago for veterinary use. I think the company that brought it to market was Merck. Eventually it was also approved for human use, only for scabies and perhaps other parasites to. Those are the official ON LABEL uses of the drugs.

    As anybody paying attention knows, drugs can be used off label, and it happens frequently. An example is many of the ADHD drugs administered to children. They were never approved for children, never tested on children, but nervous teachers in many locations demanded their hyperactive students be administered those drugs and they were.

    That Ivermectin was initially approved for vet purposes DOES NOT MEAN that the drug cannot be effective in humans for infections besides scabies. I know 2 people who were successfully treated with the drug for Covid.
     
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    The drug is used to treat parasites in body’s. Humans, animals, don’t matter
     
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    he is pretty healthy, hope he recovers well, I have a few family members that have gotten delta, it can be very rough

    glad I got vaccinated when I did back in March and April
     
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    I have administered Ivermectin to different types of animals for many years

    not in my wildest thoughts did I EVER consider using the de-wormer to treat anything other than what it is prescribed for

    I would like to know exactly what doctors and what scientific studies have been done about the dosages and effects of ivomec on humans to treat a virus??

    I think a Q person came up with this conspiracy theory about ivomec because covid was reported to come from an animal

    Ivermectin could be bought at most feed stores nation wide for about $40 bucks for a 50mg bottle

    my cattle rancher friend told be yesterday he could not get it because so many people are buying it

    kinda funny,

    but very sad,

    the same people that are afraid to be vaccinated are not afraid to ingest a cow de-wormer
     
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    Regeneron antibodies are “free” just like the vaccines. Some places bill insurance for administering them but the taxpayers already bought the antibodies. Most hospital staff don’t even know what they are, but if you keep pressing to be transferred to another employee eventually someone will realize it is a treatment they offer.
     
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    Thanks for clearing that up.

    Can you see why the general public is scared and unsure? Yes, we should advocate for ourselves and ask questions and asked to be transferred up the line to someone with this knowledge, but why should it be that laborious?

    This is not to advocate the use of animal grade ivermectin, but simply point out that "getting quality medical care" should not add additional stress to someone who is already not feeling well or caring for someone who isn't.
     
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    per the link... they should have led with this, rather then the dewormer

    "Rogan added that his treatments also included monoclonal antibodies, Z-pack antibiotics and a vitamin drip for "three days in a row.""

    he did not train his own immune system with a vaccine, but chose to get artificial antibodies when he got the virus....

    by not leading with that in the article, some may think the dewormer is what saved him
     
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    Ivermectin has been successfully used to treat this virus since it started, all over the world.

    The powers-that-be have suppressed this information, so it's no wonder you aren't aware of it.

    Here in the US I know 2 who've been successfully treated with it, one a physician's assistant and another a nurse, my niece.
     
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    then please enlighten myself and other readers where to find the dosage information and scientific study results of Ivermectin.

    PLEASE!!

    the information you post could clarify the rumors about Ivermectin

    I knew 2 guys that took Ivermectin...one is dead ...the other had diareah for 4 days and recovered..

    he said he crapped out the virus
     
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    Try this, since you need a link apparently: Ivermectin treatment caused 'amazing improvement': Melbourne COVID patients | Page 6 | PoliticalForum.com - Forum for US and Intl Politics

    There are many others on the internet. Do your own research if possible. If you would rather not, I understand why.
     
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    Rogan has already recovered. Oscar De La Hoya (fully vaccinated) is infected with Covid and is in horrific condition, his chances of survival look pretty low.

    I agree that the medical establishment and the MSM have completely botched this. The level of trust in those institutions is cratering. It does not help when they try so damn hard to suppress information that goes against the narrative that they are trying to push. It would be much more effective and persuasive if they presented the alternatives and then presented the peered reviewed research that discounts those alternatives. They are making truth finding nearly impossible with their machinations.

    PS. My brother is recovering from Covid after two weeks. He used that hyrdoxy stuff (his father in law got it from Mexico). He is an anti-vaxxer.
     
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    I had been reading the thread which you posted

    and I have did google searches about the dosage of ivermection

    all the results of the dosage searched resulted in livestock dosages

    NO where did I see human ivermectin dosage recommendations

    please point out the answers to the questions I asked...

    I do not read any type of reputable source in that thread

    the thread you posted is mostly antivaxxers preaching their ilk

    the articles you claim as facts are basically articles written by a quack nurse or nurse practicetioner

    and the doctors claiming Ivermectin is safe are not actual US doctors..

    most articles are from the poorest countries in the entire world

    a doctor will say anything for the right price even US doctors

    remember when the doctors would come on TV selling penis enlargement meds??

    my guess is that the same consumers that bought peter growing pills also will take a cow de-wormer

    the Q people post untruths and accuse the medical community of spreading a narrative and not spreading facts ..

    being a cancer survivor myself , I trust the medical community

    why would they lie to me?? I am not that important ..and besides

    if I die off , I am no longer a profit for them..if I stay alive, doctors can continue to send out bills

    good luck making a profit on a corpse

    if Inermectin becomes an approved treatment with specific dosages published I would agree it may be a viable treatment

    until then , I will listen to a bona-fide doctor,

    I will not listen to quack on TV or doctor from the poorest country in the world

    in a poor country if a guy can read he claims himself a doctor if it makes him a buck
     
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    For parasites the CDC recommends the standard dosage. Same dosage used for Covid everywhere but here.


    https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/guidelines/overseas-guidelines.html


    Ivermectin, two doses 200 mcg/Kg orally once a day for 2 days before departure to the United States.
     
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    People, if you are gonna take ivermectin why not just take the damn vaccine?
     
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    If taken in safe dosages, I do not see how a drug that kills parasites in your body can hurt. Even if it does not kill COVID, killing intestinal or other parasites could be beneficial to overall health.
     
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    It also acts as an anti-viral. The woman that sued to use Ivermectin for her mother says her mother is showing improvement. The ventilator has been turned down from 75% to 65% after the first treatment.
     
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    De La Hoya is recovering in the hospital and said he expects to be back to training and in the ring later this year. He has an excellent chance at recovery
     
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    did you read the article you posted...

    it lists all the vaccine programs required for an immigrant to enter the USA

    vaccines for viruses such as malaria, measle , mumps, rubella, ect" are requried

    the information published about internal parasites is guidence that suggests 2 doses to kill internal parasites

    vaccines are for viruses .... ivermectin is for parasites

    pretty clear in the information you posted
     
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    I read about a man who was diagnosed with late stage terminal cancer in Oklahoma was cured by using anti parasitic medication. Makes sense to me that getting rid of parasitic infestation will have positive effects on immune system.

    Google search: Joe Tippens

    He was diagnosed with terminal small cell lung cancer in 2017 and is alive and well now. Definitely worth a look.
     
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    Yes. The FDA does not approve Ivermectin use here in the US for Covid but it’s used everywhere else pretty successfully. It is not a horse medication as many claim but like many human drugs, used on animals too.
     
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