Ron DeSantis issues executive order banning 'vaccine passports' in Florida

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  1. StillBlue

    StillBlue Well-Known Member

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    Headline says it all.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/02/florida-vaccine-passports-banned-ron-desantis
    Businesses can't require customers to present proof of vaccination as a means of allowing their workers and clients a reasonably safe environment.
    What's next?
    No bikini tops on beaches so men can be assured of real not fake boobs?
    No Democrats because they vote wrong?
    No classes required for student athletes?
    No voting unless current member dies?
    I so hope Florida does the right thing the next election.
     
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    Finally, a leader enforcing HIPAA! My health information cannot be disclosed without my consent! Whether I had a vaccine or not is for me to know and only for me to disclose if I choose to and not because some law breaking government official says it is a mandate for me to disclose. Next the Dems will say you cannot vote without a Vaccine Passport, but you still don't need identification or any proof of citizenship!

    For anyone that doesn't comprehend this:

    The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA) is a federal law that required the creation of national standards to protect sensitive patient health information from being disclosed without the patient’s consent or knowledge.
     
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    And if I were a business owner I could refuse you service if you did not present proof of vaccination. I would too. To ban the ID that many many businesses will be requiring is a stupid act of showboating that wouldn't last 10 minutes in court. It's also going to get many people dead and sick in the meantime but he'll probably put in a clause where it doesn't take effect until a date by which the courts will toss it. He'll then blame the courts and his base will be happy.
     
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    Should ones vaccination status be tattooed on the back of the hand or forehead...it's so heartening to see how many caring, compassionate, and oh, dear me, concerned about "rights" liberals here alone who would gladly kick others right to live to the curb because they refused to participate in the biggest medical experiment in the history of mankind. If you're so confident in your precious f**king vaccine then why you so damned worried about those who didn't take it, why you're immune to dread Covid, right? Yeah, the Stalins, Hitlers, Maos, and Pol Pots of the world had many willing and eager hands to do their dirty work for them. People like you terrify me more than any virus that ever popped out a bats ass.
     
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    Why not just post your entire medical records online on a website for the public?
     
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    I don't agree this is a good idea at all. It's a slippery slope of HIPPA violations. In fact, I know people who are already working on forging the document just to get around this.
     
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    Nope, he and his ilk would prefer to publicly hang the unvaccinated in iron cages till they turned to skeletons to "persuade" others to "voluntarily" sign on. Who needs a virus when there's so many little Pol Pots out there itchin' to have their day?
     
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    DeSantis, has arguably done the best job of keeping Florida relatively safe and open during the pandemic of any Governor. As far as Florida “doing the right thing”? Last election he ran against democrat Andrew Gillium, who we soon learned after the election was a drug addict and not worthy of much, let alone being Governor. Thanks, but Florida is doing just fine under DrSantis. If he leaves Florida, it might just be for the White House. He is one to watch.
     
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    Schools have been refusing children without vaccines for years now. You act like this is a new thing. It isn’t.
     
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    Good news is we get to choose which businesses we care to give our hard earned money to and yours would simply be off my list! Not any easier than that!!
     
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    This is a 100% fair and totally American sentiment. The way capitalism is supposed to work. Capitalism isn’t broke. The leaders are.
     
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    Not true. Exemptions are available in every single state! By law!!
     
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    True, but that's not the same as having to carry papers to gain entrance to every public place that demands to see them. That could be used to discriminate against people on "the other side" of the manager's stance on the issue and offer no protection against that information being given to others.
     
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    As are exemptions to getting vaccinated
     
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    Bars and liquor stores have been doing it for 60 years.
     
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    Since when do bars and liquor stores ask people for medical information? I've never heard of that.
     
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    It's a vaccine for goodness sake that the vast majority needs to take to have a chance of working.
    It's not an inquiry into your medical condition or history.
     
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    They do ask you to prove your age. There is little difference asking if you've been vaccinated
     
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    OK. So, you show up to a store that requires you show your proof of vaccination. You don't have it on you so you're holding up the line forming behind you. Somebody in line sees you don't have your proof and assumes you are not vaccinated. They mumble to some other people and a mob starts following you to your car. Then what? You get run out of town on the first thing moving?

    What about when the "required proof" goes digital to "make it easier" for people to just have something on a key fob to scan? How many nanoseconds would it take for it to house all your medical information?

    Doctors, nurses and pharmacies already violate HIPPA knowing that most people don't know how to report the violations. Do you really want any and every store manager to know your vaccination (or lack thereof) history?
     
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    For the sake of argument, those were vaccinations against real disease like smallpox and others.

    This virus is but a flu virus at worst.
     
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    Vaccinated against the flu? Vaccinated against a virus that is survived by 99% of those infected?

    Are you really that frightened?
     
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    It is so ironic how the left are all for vaccine documentation, but they have a real problem with identification to vote! Someone please explain this in a way that makes any sense!
     
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    That isn’t 100% true.

    There is a magic word in HIPPA that really is important, covered entity. If they don’t fall in that that term, they don’t have to follow HIPPA.
     
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    That one might get some traction.

    FLORIDA PULLS AHEAD OF THE REST OF FREE AMERICA IN LOTTERY OF PLACES TO GO: DeSantis Nixes COVID-19 Vaccine Passports In Florida.

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    Just Say "NO!" to "Your Paper Please?"
    The Governor who limited damage to his state's economy by remaining open, has a COVID record of success that ranks with the top half of the United States and who is not afraid of standing up to a group of demented partisan clowns in the Federal Government.
    Refuses to require a vaccine that has yet to be approved by the FDA.
    "The executive order forbids any Florida government entity “to issue vaccine passports, vaccine passes, or other standardized documentation for the purpose of certifying an individual’s COVID-19 vaccination status to a third party.”"

    Protects medical privacy, consistent with HIPPA:

    "They also cannot “publish or share” anyone’s COVID-19 vaccination status."

    So, these guys might want to doxx folks who haven't yet been vaccinated? Well, don't try that in Florida.

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  25. StillBlue

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    Yep. Have you ever seen Mad Max movies? That's the predicted results of a rapid 2-4% population drop. Do you really want to test that theory? Especially when it could be prevented?
    Also it is not the flu. That is like saying appendicitis is a heart attack. Do stop saying that please.
     

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