Ron DeSantis on Ukraine

Well since that wasn't going to happen, even if Putin's plan had actually worked, you are worrying over nothing. I don't believe any serious person could think we were facing the threat of Soviet Union II: Electric Boogaloo.

 

I believe you meant Doha Accords. What Trump did was dishonorable. Biden chose to join the dishonor.

 

@Bearack said, "Selective help, I see. Why not help the people of Yemen, currently getting eviscerated by the Saud's? Why not intervene in Syria who have been begging for US intervention for over a decade? Why not intervene in the Uyghur genocide to give those people the ability to fight for their own freedom? Why turn a blind eye to the active slave trade in Africa? Where is your small piece of help for those in Venezuela? Just flick some decimal dust to each of these nations?!

Ukraine was perpetuated by CIA intervention into an existing government. If you wanted to help people.... maybe stop intervening in their politics."
Sorry I could not quote you because I don't know when you made this post. Saw it in a reply and thought I would respond.


We tried to intervene in Syria, but the GOP made the argument that we could not tell the difference which groups would turn on us and go to ISIS or AQ at that time. With the GOP, anyone other than Saudis, who were ME Muslim was the enemy. Our staunchest ally are the Kurds, but Trump pretty much abandoned them. We also tried international pressure, but that didn't help either. For Yemen, it was the same thing, one group has ties to AQ/ISIS/IRAN and the other had TIES to AQ.ISIS/Saudi Arabia. But we didn't get involved because Saudi Arabia was our ally at that time even though they were using our weapons to do their destruction. So, we supplied them with more, among other things.

For Venezuela, we can help them. It is called allowing them in as refugees once they complete the process. Most go to Columbia because they have family there. But the ones who come here have family here. Yet the GOP does not want them coming in as refugees as all. Care to guess why? WE do have VOA programs over there or we simply don't buy oil from Venezuela but they can sell their oil to other countries, but that is the extent of it. We can use the Organization of American States to put pressure on them, but most South American Countries have problems of their own and we are not exactly on the best of terms with them because of our mistakes in the past few decades. That is why

 

Putin has made that statement several times, and there are over 150k troops on those borders while their military is a fraction of what Russia has. So yes, it could happen if given the right set of circumstances starting off with a divided Europa and distrust with America. But it could happen. By denying Ukraine from Russia, it will never happen.

 

That is false. In 2012 Barack Obama made the decision not to provide military support to the Syrian democratic opposition. I saw grown men cry when his decision was announced.

 

You can skip the history lesson because I'm pretty familiar with it. So you think engaging in an open proxy war with one of the world's largest nuclear Powers is something we should be doing right now?

 

"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty. This much we pledge--and more." --John F. Kennedy

Inaugural Address, January 20, 1961 | JFK Library

 

So was the cowardly, incompetent, and dishonorable Biden withdrawal from Afghanistan perhaps a "signal?"

Who would have thought? Liberals resurrecting the Domino Theory once totally discredited.

Speaking of NWO, Orwell sure predicted the modern left. Everything they do falls under one of the following precepts;

War is Peace:
Freedom is Slavery:
Ignorance is Strength.

 

Very apropos. Kennedy being a proponent of the Domino Theory.

So with respect to meeting the burden who is we Kemosabe? Did our current President meet the burden when he dodged the draft? Did Trump meet the burder? Did Clinton? Did Dick Chaney? How many sons of Congressman served in Iraq?

 

We are the United States. Regardless of any individual's shortcoming, that endures.

 

I'm inferring you're implying the US is the world's policeman.

 

Not at all, but there are some principles we are bound to defend.
"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty. This much we pledge--and more." --John F. Kennedy

Inaugural Address, January 20, 1961 | JFK Library

 

Pay any price like nuclear war for a regional dispute?

 

Sticking your nose in the middle of a fight with two others you have no business with is a good way to get it broken

 

Estimates from the government say there's 13 million illegals in this nation but you can bet your ass it's far more than that

 

I knew I misspelled it and I figured that you would jump on that instead of actually addressing the post. Perhaps you should head down to the local school and see if they need a spelling teacher.

 

We will not be deterred by punk Putin's empty threats.

 

The defense of liberty is our business.

 

You better hope they're empty or we're screwed. I don't believe nuclear bombs landing in the United States is a risk that we should be taking for no reason

 

Who died and made us the world Police?
There is always conflicts going on around the world so why don't we stick our nose in the middle of every single one of them?

 

Then you should have surrendered decades ago. There is no particular risk now.

 

Not all conflicts are to defend liberty. Don't look for an excuse not to do the right thing.

 

Yes, that claim drips with hubris and reflects the thinking that got us into Vietnam. It was a commitment that we were unable to fulfill, something that weren't able to admit until after over 50,000 Americans were killed and we bugged out.



DeSantis angers the Warmongers

DC Flips Over DeSantis’ Ukraine Comments; Voters Shrug

'While the U.S. has many vital national interests — securing our borders, addressing the crisis of readiness within our military, achieving energy security and independence, and checking the economic, cultural, and military power of the Chinese Communist Party — becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them.'

He's simply, correct.

Outside of the DC Warmongers, for who war is a great opportunity for graft, 'the rest of the country is not nearly as invested in Ukraine as DC tastemakers insist they be. In general, Americans sympathize with Ukrainians, but they’re more likely to rant about the price of eggs than developments across the Transdnieper.'

This upsets warmongers who think that 'voters should care more about the latter than the former. In fact, it’s a moral failing that they don’t!'

'Meh. Voters are busy with everyday life, not geopolitical strategy on the other side of the world. Voters should care more about the $31.5 trillion federal debt.'

'Biden promised to back Ukraine for “as long it takes.” Sorry, Joe, forever is a very long time. The US made similar promises to our Afghan allies before chaotically abandoning the country in Biden’s first year.'

 

By the way, here we see Biden negotiating the handover of Afghanistan with the Taliban.

 

Sometimes we fall short. We continue nonetheless.