Ron Paul's response to Russian Sanctions

The Nazis are punishers, financed by the state of Ukraine. More battalion Donbass and Azov regiment-war criminals: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aidar_Battalion

 

This is all already defined and documented. There will be a Tribunal like Nuremberg.

 

This Battalion was formed after Russian aggression. So, it doesn’t back your claims that Ukrainian government recruited, trained and sent Nazis to Ukrainian east for the purpose of persecuting Ukrainian Russians.
Also, this unit was reorganized after allegations of abuses, which actually proves that your claims are false. Are you joining conversations so that you yourself can prove that you are wrong? You are a tough man - it’s like punching yourself.

 

Where are the documents?
Didn’t you just claim that there are none because they are secret?
Contradicting yourself again?

 

After USSR collapsed the then US administration was the main driver to deprive Ukraine of nuclear weapon. The then US authorities probably had much more common sense than the current ones have, and they realized that leaving nuclear warheads in some unstable failed state is not a good idea. That was the United States and the president Bush-senior who pushed Ukraine to abandon its nuclear arsenal. Russian policy on Ukraine's military stokpile was compltly indeffirent and only followed the US aspirations.

One may say mr.Bush-senior was a wizdom man who looked much further than the modern politicians. There is no good if some failed state like Ukraine, which survived two coups and a civil war during its short history, would have nuclear weapon.

Anyway, the point of view that evil Russia dreamed about how to "steal" and seize nuclear weapons from poor and good Ukraine is totally wrong. The United States demanded Ukraine to give its nuces up, not Russia. The United States used its financial tools, including WMF, to push Ukraine, the United States linked the Ukraine's access to WMF credits and its decision on nuclear disarmament. The United States was the only sponsor of Ukraine's denuclearization.

 

Then why did russians sign it?

 

I have news for you, the Russian Nazis were kicked out and went to Ukraine when the war started with the Donbass.

How about this bit from Andrew Biletsky, a member of the Ukrainian Parliament and Lieutenant Colonel of Police. He copied it directly from the original German, (so much for Ukrainian greatness), and only the name German was changed into Ukraine.

The symbol is the Nazi Wolfangel sign. If you want to read it in the original Ukrainian, you can do so here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20100216231547/http:/rid.org.ua/?p=256



The main mystical idea of Social-Nationalism is the creation, instead of a bunch of disparate individuals mechanically united by the name "Ukrainians" and the presence of a Ukrainian passport, a national supranational community - a single biological organism that will consist of New People - physically, intellectually and spiritually developed. From the masses of individuals there should appear a nation, and from the weak modern man - the Superman.

Social-Nationalism rests on a number of fundamental principles that clearly distinguish it among other right movements. This is a peculiar triad: Socialism, Rationality, Velikontazhstvennost.

I - Socialism. We are competing to create a harmonious National community. We argue that a sharp social disunity leads to the decay and disintegration of the spirit of the national community, as well as the cultivation of selfishness. We do not deny the existence of the rich (provided that the material values acquired by them are honest and socially useful work), but we reject the possibility of the poor.

Every Ukrainian without regard to the nature of the work to be performed must have a decent social status and material security. "It's shameful to be poor in a rich country, even more embarrassing to be rich in a poor country."

From the principle of Sociality, our complete denial of democracy and liberalism arises from the division of the Nation into isolated units and the power of the gray crowd over prominent personalities (ohlocracy). Instead, we put forward the ideas of National Solidarity, the natural hierarchy and discipline as the foundation of our new society.

Not a "democratic vote" of a crowd that can not give for its own life is not the life of the State, but the natural selection of the best representatives of the Nation - the innate leaders of the leaders. Anyone who believes that such a system of government is unacceptable, let him think, and whether a modern power system is acceptable, in which a prostitute and academician have equal voting rights, where a degenerate drug addict or pederast is equally valued in the elections with the commander of the tank division.

II - Speech All our nationalism is nothing - a castle in the sand, without bearing on the foundation of blood, the foundation of the Race. It is inherent in the traditional (postwar, post-Wallian) nationalism to put a cart before the horse - to declare that the Nation is a linguistic, cultural or territorial-economic phenomenon.

We, of course, do not reject the significance of spiritual, cultural and linguistic factors, as well as territorial patriotism. But, according to our deep conviction, all these are only derivatives from our Race, our Race Nature. If Ukrainian spirituality, culture and language are unique, then this is only because our racial nature is unique. If Ukraine is an ancestral paradise, it's just because our Race has transformed it into it.

Accordingly, the treatment of our National Organism must begin with the Rational Purification of the Nation. And then in a healthy racial body a healthy National Spirit will be revived, with it culture, language and everything else. In addition to the question of purity, we must also pay attention to the issue of the fullness of the Race. Ukrainians are part of (and one of the largest and most qualitative) European White Races.

Race-Creator of a great civilization, the highest human achievements. The historical mission of our nation in this turning point is to lead and lead the White peoples of the world in the last crusade for its existence. Hike against the Semitism headed by incompetence.

ІІІ - Powerfulness We replace the slogan "Independent Ukraine" with the slogan "Great Ukraine". Ukrainians are a nation with an ancient imperial history. During its existence, the Ukrainians had at least two superpowers - Great Scythia and Kievan Rus. The task of the present generation is to create the Third Empire - the Great Ukraine. And this question, oddly enough, is not so much political, but biological.

Any living organism in nature tends to expand, multiply, increase. This law is universal for infusoria-shoes, both for a person and for the Nation-Race. Stopping, stopping development means in the nature of fading - death. The deceleration of the growth of the population leads to the biological death of the nation, the cessation of political expansion and the decline of the State.

Thousands of times we have heard the mourning of pseudo-nationalists about the oppression of us by the Poles and Moscow, their curses to the empires. Social-nationalism is not the same, he argues - if we are strong, then we will take everything that belongs to us for the right or even a little more, we will build our Superstate-Empire - the Great Ukraine, which will be the legal successor of the Scythian and Kyiv-Russian empires. If we are weak, then we also have a place among the conquered dying nations. Because this is Nature! Choice for us!

Thus, Social-Nationalism raises on the shield all the ancient Ukrainian Aryan values forgotten in modern society. Only their revival and the realization of a group of fanatical fighters can lead to the final victory of European civilization in the world struggle. We stand on this and we can not do otherwise!

Glory to Ukraine!
Andrew Biletsky

 

And why did Russians vote for Yeltsin, or did they?

 

Ha!
No Ukrainian politician can beat Russian Milonov (homophobe and antisemite) and Zhyrinovsky (racist homophobe and even a greater whacko).

 

Which is precisely what I was demonstrating. "I guess you missed the "by your logic" in kneejerking a response.

 

They votes for first term.
And Russia signed it during his first term as well.
Do you feel sad when you post something irrelevant?

 

The point is that Nazism is alive and well with the Western Banderites. If you believe otherwise, then you don't know what's going on in Ukraine. As for Zhyrinovsky, don't knock him he's Jewish - or at least he was Jewish before.

And here's the celebration for Bandera, the hero and father of Ukraine for cleansing Lviv and Polish Galicia of Poles and Jews.



This is from the Times of Israel. It's the Ukrainian nationalists in Kiev chanting “Jews out” in German at a New Year’s Day march celebrating the birthday of Bandera.

 

So what? Every country has racists and neo-Nazis.
Zhyrinovski is a well known homophobe and racist. So is Milonov, on the top of being an antisemite.
Read this book!

 

https://www.heritage.org/europe/report/zhirinovsky-his-own-words-excerpts-the-final-thrust-south

Some of Zhyrinovskys statements:

That guy is a member of Russian parliament! He ran for president every election!
And you dare to bring up some random Ukrainian street ultra-Right movement?

Ha!

 

Vladimir Putin has what he calls his "White Books". In it are the testimonies collected in the past years of all the atrocities committed by the pseudo government in Kiev in preparation for a Nuremburg style trial.

 

Any backup for Ukraine persecuting russians? Link? Nothing but your word?
Thanks for nothing!

 

What makes you think either of the two Pauls are qualified to manage the treasury?

 

Uhhh, take a good look at those parades and tremble. Seems very reminiscent of Nazi Germany to me. But look, if you want to live in la-la land, then don't let me break your bubble.

La-la land, here I come!​

 

So, it’s OK for neo-Nazis like zhyrinovski to be in Russian parliament and not OK for some people to march on the streets and carry flags in Ukraine? There was ultra-Right demonstration in Washington DC. Does it make the US a Nazi country?

 

The greatest:
power, budget money and staffing for the US Intel communities,
the greatest profits for the war industries,
the greatest power and budgets for the military,
the greatest interest profits of the super rich, and
the greatest diversion for politicians
is for the USA to be on both sides of every conflict - both supporting and opposing all sides.

So we are pro-Turkey and anti-Russia, while at the same time pro-Russia and anti-Turkey.
We attack ISIS while at the same time we are ISIS. We are on every side of every conflict in the Middle East and Eurasia - perpetually - just as we have perpetuated the Cold War against the USSR - which became extinct in the 1980s - for 7 decades non-stop - just like the perpetual conflict with N. Korea for the same length of time.

 

My bad ...

 

The sanctions against Russia have nothing to do with Skripal. They are only about money and power, nothing else. This same course of action lead to WW2 in both the West and the East.

 

Cong

Congressman Paul served for years in the Commitee which is commissioned to oversee our federal reserve. We need people like him to be cabinet level secretaries instead of putting one of the bank swindlers lackeys in such a position. In Trump's cabinet, you have a champion of gross polluters as head of the EPA, a Goldman Sachs Lackey at Treasury, a thief at Commerce etc. This is the old putting the Fox in charge of the henhouse deal. Obama did the same thing in Treasury by hiring Goldman Sachs taxdodger Tim Geithner as Secretary of Treasury, but at least he had a guy who cared about the environment at EPA. Trump is now replacing the scumbag polluters champ with a coal Barron strip miner at EPA.

 

Well, clearly you enjoy smearing people you do not know.

 

Maybe I should have said the sanctions are "ostensibly" because of the Skripal case.