Have you ever tried to accurately rapid fire the Carcano rifle allegedly used by Oswald? I have & it can't be done. Additionally, several FBI expert marksmen tried and couldn't duplicate what Oswald was supposed to have done alone.
I have in fact fired it many times. No one said anything about RAPID fire. Oswald had in fact six seconds or more to fire three shots which is not defined as rapid fire by any reasonable standard. Actually you are quite wrong and your claim about the FBI is in fact one of the many myths which the conspiracy theorists repeat even though it has been proven false. The expert marksmen and even other average marksmen were in fact able to reasonably duplicate the performance Oswald achieved and they even used the EXACT same rifle. In some cases they were able to better such as beating the time and scoring two out of three hits in less than five seconds. Regardless of expertise no one can exactly or perfectly repeat the exact same shot placement of another shooter but the many marksmen have in fact duplicated what Oswald did including those used as test subjects by the Warren Commission.
I'm afraid I can't believe your assertions without credible supporting evidence for: I've been shooting a very wide variety of firearms for 60+ years (everything from .22 cal. to .50BMG, bolt action to fully automatic weapons) qualified "Expert" with several firearms in the Military & continue to shoot WW2 era bolt action & semi auto rifles in competition. There's no way that Oswald could have made those shots. JFK etc was a moving target & the Carcano is a rough operating bolt action. I'm sorry but without credible supporting source, I can't believe what you've just said. We'll have to agree to disagree.
dude take the words of me and everyone else here,dont waste your time on him.He is a paid shill sent here by his handlers to try and derail any kind of truth discussion of this subject.
Don't worry, I believed the "Lone Gunman Theory" when I was a kid but not for long. However I do vividly remember the day JFK was assassinated.
The Warren Commission report is the source and they are the ones who had those tests performed. They are also very credible. Sorry but you are quite unfamiliar with fireamrs despiet the imagunary resume the fact is any average shooter could have made the shots as he did that is proven fact beyond question.
You have made assertions with no credible source so you first. Who proved that he could not do it and who produced FBI experts who could not duplicate the shots? Who said he shot rapid fire?
wow you sure woke up much sooner than I did. since i never knew how evil our government really is,I never questioned the story and accepted it without question until sometime late in the 80's when they were showing a documentary of it on the history channel.they USED TO be objective showing both sides but they were bought off sometime in the mid 2000's by someone and now they only present the side of the warren commission of course.probably cause too many people like me were becoming awake and they had to shut them up.
the vegas shooting is the JFK assassination all over again,same as in JFK where there were multiple shooters that they did not talk about and covered up the evidence and facts on that,they have done the same thing with vegas as well. Because of the net and our history of government corruption,people are no longer accepting the governments version of events anymore. Had I known anything about youtube videos and such back in 2001 as i know now,i never would have accepted the governments version of events on 9/11 as i did.I had suspecious that since we were lied to for so many years on the JFK assassination that 9/11 was pulled off by the CIA as well since they control the media.I did not believe a word of it so i refrained from saying 9/11 was an inside job for three years until someone showed me a couple of videos of facts the media did not report that exposed their corruption so after three years when i did have the facts,that was when i went around telling people about it and sharing information to them on it as someone did with me that day. since i am internet savvy NOW and do know about youtube videos as i did not back in 2001,it was only a few days before i saw the evidence and facts same as the JFK assassination,that there were multiple shooters as i suspected. you just KNOW that a certain lone gunman theorist is going to come on here and cry in defeat as he always does everyday and has for YEARS now getting arse beatings year after year from hundreds of people like myself. he sure gets well paid thats for sure.he would NEVER come back for these arse beatings for FREE.not happening.lol
There was one shooter ( Oswald ) in dallas and one in vegas. It is you and a few others consistently receiving the ass beatings. You have no evidence to support any of your claims
Yes, I remember the day JFK was shot. I was 12 years old & it was between classes. I don't remember exactly when I realized the official version was BS but JFK came up when I was with some friends target shooting a Carcano rifle that someone had & I noticed how much more difficult it was to operate than my Mauser Mod. 98k. That's when I started to pay attention to the "conspiracy theories" which made more sense than the official version. It was after my military service and the USS Liberty attack / cover-up that I realized the degree to which our government would lie & commit crimes against its own people. Now, it seems that the "Official Versions" of JFK & 9/11 are the conspiracy theories. I read just recently that Trump is requesting that the JFK Files be declassified so maybe soon, the "Flat Earth" crowd will have to wake up. TRUMP ORDERS RELEASE OF JFK FILES http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-release-of-jfk-files.517031/#post-1068158252
Except you have no evidence to support any of these claims of 911 or JFK and the evidence does prove you wrong
I have no evidence in addition to what has already been presented on this & similar threads that would change the mind of someone whose mind is closed on the subject except: "Surgeon’s sketch suggests 2 gunmen killed JFK" http://nypost.com/2017/06/21/surgeons-sketch-suggests-2-gunmen-killed-jfk/ AND "Evidence Refutes the Official 9/11 Investigation: The Scientific Forensic Facts" https://www.globalresearch.ca/evide...stigation-the-scientific-forensic-facts/21436
you have already took all the lunatic lone nut theorists to school here so you dont have to explain yourself.I know you have handed them their asses to them on a platter and they can just whine and cry in defeat like the monkey trolls they are.that should be good enough for you.lol PLUS,have you noticed that me and you are the ONLY posters that have posted on this page here on this thread? you catch my drift right? lol see,since me and you are the ONLY two posters that have posted on this page who posts count,then no need to explain yourself dude.you have taken proven in spades oswald was innocent and there were multiple shooters,no need to explain anymore to me since like i said,you have taken all the lone nut theorists to school on this too many times to remember and again like i said,it is just me and you still posting on this page.lol
No you do not actually. What you have posted has long long since been debunked and proven false. There was never an entrance wound in the front of Kennedy's head as all of the many many photographs prove conclusively. That is irrefutable and beyond question or challenge. The claims of your second link are false and invalid and fictional as any scientist or engineer will tell you
Yes there is in fact. That failure is yours. The efforts to discredit it have massively imploded and made fools of the who attempted to do so. The commission did in fact base it's conclusion on massive evidence which you cannot challenge or refute. Your claim that it is lacking in credibility is based on massive ignorance and is false
Massive ignorance? I claim it's fraudulent to support the Warren Comission because the WC is a joke, and its findings are a joke. The "magic bullet" theory being the king of all jokes. The entire thing is a fraud. Our government has too much power. It has kept this trash secret for over 50 years. Tell me, why would they do that?
The thing you rarely see in one of these conversations is the contrarian view. So, I'll float it out there. Who cares? Kennedy got killed. Life went on. The power of democracy prevailed. At more than 50 years, what possible difference now does any of this make? Think about it this way. These are acts of infamy. The act itself is why we care. A president was shot. Our government decided to self immolate itself attempting to assume a non democratic transparency "for our own good" which is so typical of our authoritarian democrats in our nation. I'd say that tells us everything we should need to know about the act itself. Even if Lee Harvey wasn't the only shooter, the real damage wasn't the assassination, it was the reaction of our government and their paternalistic approach to shelter us, hide from us, or otherwise simply ignore us. This is what government doesn't and shouldn't do. The feeling within government that they were no longer answerable to the people, the government became the thing that we should most be distrustful of. The last 55 years have only ever continued to reinforce this view.
Yes your claim is one of massive ignorance and that is not a claim or opinion it is fact and you just proved it with that post. You have no idea what the Warren Commission report says and what is contained within it yet you pompously claim it is a joke and fraudulent. You cannot accurately call someone a liar without first accurately stating what lie they told and you cannot accurately or intelligently criticize a book without reading it. You are a believer in the magic bullet theory and have fallen for that theory in a very gullible fashion. Here is a hint. That theory is NO WHERE to be found in the warren commission report. The rest of your argument is not factual it is strictly ideological. " Our government has too much power" is not an argument or a refutation of the Warren Commission report which you have failed to challenge. IF you are claiming the government has lied ( it has) and therefore ALWAYS lies then answer this question. Are there any guilty men in prison or are they all innocent and we should release hem all immediately back into society? Apparently you fail to grasp that many people in and out of the government are fraudulent liars including the many theorists who try to make a buck off of the Kennedy assassination or simply gain some notoriety or fame dreaming up delusional theories
If Oswald's the lone gunman, then where is the national security issue? Explain it to me. The house select committee came to a different conclusion then the warren report did, and that is enough for me to say that they are both fraudulent and failed investigations. Just like the sudden disappearance of CIA documents during the cold war on the eve of their release, we will never know the truth, and the failures of the WC will forever be accepted by people like you as well documented fact, when they support nonsensical fiction. Common sense is enough to dismiss the ignorance of the WC and its findings. There are plenty of books I've read and a few I own on the subject. Not peddling conspiracy, but challenging and dismissing the WC. Go do your own research, establishment shill.
There are many valid reasons why there might be national security issues such as simply protecting intelligence assets who may have examined Oswald while he was in the USSR or Mexico. That is a weak and entirely idiotic premise to base a judgement that both reports are fraudulent and failed. As i said you have no idea on earth what the Warren Commission report says which means yes you base your claim on ignorance and willfully protect that ignorance by refusing to address evidence// Common sense provides no means whatsoever to challenge the evidence and you are not using common sense you are using faith which is based on fallacy. The books you have read ARE IN FACT peddling fake crap without evidence and you have naively fallen for it. Do not tell others to do research when you in fact have done none whatsoever.Honest research involves looking at both sides of the issue which you refuse to do You cannot and will not even TRY to present any evidence to refute the 911 commission report or the WC report and this is because there IS NO SUCH evidence to present
Yeah, yeah yeah. Keep peddling lies, Soup. You spew nothing but the WC's bullshit on this. Doesn't matter how many holes are poked in their theories, you will still buy it all. There is no evidence there was only one shooter. See how that works?
