Rudy Giuliani’s fixer, Lev Parnas, turned over documents. They’re very ugly.

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  1. Paul7

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    According to Shotkin in a sworn statement, it was because he was getting too close to Burisma. Hunter was only on that board for protection from that event.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Well they didn’t hold a press conference lol
     
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    John Solomon's creative concoctions don't count..

    Good thing he had Schiff subpoena that journalists phone records then.

    "We're for freedom of the press except when were against it"
     
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    Did Shotkin provide that sworn statement before or after Giuliani publicly said he was investigating the Bidens?
     
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    A sworn statement obtained by a russian mobster fighting extradition to the US lol
    Awesome sources there lol
     
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    Why are you making a false claim? They did not subpoena his records.
     
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    If that is in fact false I'm not saying it knowing that it is false. They did have his phone records did they not?
     
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    They did not. They had records for Lev and Rudy.
     
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    Actually, I don't, but I found these reports interesting:

    I guess we'll see what there is to these reports and what, if anything, comes of them. Who knows, maybe we'll hear about them in the upcoming Senate proceedings (?).
     
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...dment-protects-him-journalist/?outputType=amp


    So I misspoke when I said they subpoenad Solomon's phone records. It seems they like you said subpoenad Lev and Rudy's and Solomon number showed up in the logs and they released it. Now don't they have to have Solomons approval to release his personal information? They'd have to have a reason that usurps his right to give consent before releasing his information right?
     
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    Lol you really need to stop with these nonsense sources. If you can’t get fox or national review to cover it, it’s probably fake
     
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    Did Rudy and Lev give consent?
     
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    No but their right to consent was usurped once they were under investigation.
     
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    Rudy is under investigation? By who? Who’s admitted that? I mean it’s true, but it’s not been stated publicly. I think you’re just winging it lol
    Solomon is clearly part of all this, why would you assume he’s not also?
     
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    I have never trusted any politician but I am smart enough to understand there are many things that are none of my business.
     
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    A good point by Andrew McCarthey:

    "The typical federal judge would not allow an “active grand jury investigation outside the parameters of the trial while the trial is going on.”

    “There could be nothing more prejudicial to having a fair trial than trying to conduct a trial where there is all this noise outside the trial coming from the House as evidence keeps getting thrown over," he added."
     
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    Wait...so now you agree impeachment is basically a grand jury??? So all that BS about due process was lies? Wanting to call defense witnesses was insincere? Because that’s not how grand juries work
     
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    The Intelligence Committee's lawful AT&T subpoena was limited to the records of Lev Parnas and Guiliani - no one else.

    The only reason Solomon (and others) appeared in the records is because they had been in contact with Lev Parnas and/or Giuliani.
     
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    and Joe needed to protect his coke snorting son and to protect himself from investigation that would be embarrassing to Obama and to the Democrats as Biden used his position as a VP to enrich his family, illegally.

    Hunter Biden got a lot of drug money from Ukraine and China.
     
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    And the trump DOJ is not doing a thing about it! Sad!
     
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    They have been in Ukraine gathering information on crimes by Obama and Biden since 2017. In fact, the Democrats are so scared that they impeached Trump over it. LOL
     
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    Source for 2017?
    Why hasn’t the DOJ announced it like he wanted Ukraine to?
     
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    The grand jury stage is over, your side chose to rush things. Believe me, you will see defense witnesses, the ones Schiff refused to have.
     
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    I tbink you’re going to be disappointed if you think the WB or the Bidens are going to be called. But that’s fine if it means we get the actual witnesses and docs
     
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    Do you apply the same logic to the impeachment proceedings?
    Why not allow witnesses to appear like Giuliani and Bolton and the rest!

     

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