Rudy Giuliani, Lindsey Graham and John Eastman subpoenaed by Fulton County DA in election probe

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  1. ShadowX

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    Lols I provided you facts. Did Trump or did he not state in that phone call that their election results were inaccurate? Not that he knew he lost and they needed to create some votes so he would win.

    The ENTIRE conversation was about how their election results were inaccurate. He clearly made the argument MULTIPLE times that there were votes out there that they hadn’t included in their count. Not that votes needed to be created for his count, but that they needed to count the real ones.

    I don’t really give a damn if you don’t like that or not. What I care about is that in a court of law they will present that information to a jury and not you nor anybody else will be able to overcome those facts.

    Your assertion that the phone call was Trump attempting to convince Raff to fabricate votes is not supported in ANY way. And sure as hell would never stand up in a court of law. Because the ENTIRE rest of the phone call is trump arguing with Raff about how their count was not accurate lol
     
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    He said off by 100s of thousands then asked him to find the exact number he needed to win. Why? Why not all of the fraudulent ballots?
     
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    So, I'll just leave this here. Note this was before he tried to have his own VP kidnapped and/or murdered.
     
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    Because he didn’t need but that many to win. The rest would be nice to show off but the only number that mattered was the winning one.

    I’m not arguing trump wasn’t trying to overturn the election. He was. He’s admitted as such over and over again. But trump believed he was doing so LEGITIMATELY. Trump believed he won. Period. Every single action he took are the actions of a man who believed he had been cheated out of a rightful victory.

    He fought with every arrow in his quiver to get it rightfully overturned. But he never did anything illegal to cause it to be overturned. And he fought that battle all the way up to his last breath as president until he realized he couldn’t win and then he stopped.

    He STILL believes he won, you can hear him talk about it on any day. And that’s why he’s running again because he believes he won last time and he believes he will win again in 2024.
     
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    Fixed typo in above image

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  6. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    You are simply wrong. It's one thing if you choose to consume biased and dishonest "news" instead of the real thing, but it's another when you feel compelled to come here and spread it.

    Trump not only broke the law, but was dumb enough to do it while being recorded. It took over 40 years, but we finally managed to elect a bigger crook than Nixon to the presidency.
     
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    I guess he wanted complete secrecy because it was really a surpise birthday party. /smdh

    If Trump's hand are clean, there would be no need to have his camp threaten witnesses, Kinzinger and his family, and/or malign anyone that testifies in his daily meltdowns?

    Just admit that you don't care that he is a career criminal. Own it.

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    Yea I’m sure your abject assurances will go a long way in court convincing people that when he said their vote was inaccurate and they were missing hundreds of thousands of votes… what he REALLY meant is he knew he lost and he wanted 11,000 votes fabricated

    Lol good luck with that
     
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    So, your best argument FOR T**** is that he's a deranged ostrich?? Can't wait for that bumper sticker!

    BTW, there is no way to legally overturn a certified election outside of a courtroom... Once he failed in EVERY courtroom, even the MOST deranged morons would get the clue... But not our Donnie, apparently..

    Also, threatening a state SOS with criminal liability for not falsifying election returns doesn't appear LEGITIMATE to me...

    I'd prepare for the worst case scenario here...
     
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    Source where he threatened a SOS with criminal liability for not falsifying election returns lol
     
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    And of course there is. Let’s assume that PROOF was found today that Biden and the Dems cheated. Irrefutable unequivocal proof.

    Would he remain in power?
     
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    January 3rd phone call... listen to it live (OMG!) or read the transcript, I care not which (but listening if way more disturbing)...

    Can't believe there is somebody attempting to comment on that phone call who hasn't done one or the other....
     
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    I have listened to it. Multiple times. He never threatens Raff with criminal charges for not falsifying votes. That’s ****ing preposterous. Source that bullshit. Quote it.

    You’re just making stuff up lol. I mean it sounds great in ur head probably but it’s not going to hold up in court lol Not for anyone who understands the definition of words in the English language.
     
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    Rudy's going to have to kick the bucket to get out of this one. WTF is wrong with these people???
     
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    You know I always thought it was stupid and not funny when Lucy would rip the football away from Charlie Brown every time and how that moron would run up again the next time and do it again.

    But I get it now. It’s freaking hilarious. We don’t even have to do anything lol we just let them pwn themselves lol It’s even better than Lucy. It’s like just watching Charlie Brown run up and kick at a ball that isn’t even there and falling over.
     
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    Any PROOF would have to be verified in a court case.... Ergo, there is no changing an election result outside of a court case.

    I would hope Biden would be impeached. However, I doubt a court could remove a sitting president under that hypothesis, since a sitting president cannot indicted.....

    Wow... that was fun. Can we play "What if Spartacus had B-52 bombers" now??
     
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    As long as the bucket doesn't kick back.... he's a frail old man with questionable balance skills, let's not forget....
     
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    I’m glad to hear you say that for when trump wins in 2024 and y’all scream he cheated.
     
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    Anybody who claims to have actually listened to that call and still supports that bozo really don't deserve a quote, but here's the clip...

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    And you are going to find that they are — which is totally illegal, it is more illegal for you than it is for them because, you know what they did and you're not reporting it. That's a criminal, that's a criminal offense. And you can't let that happen. That's a big risk to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that's a big risk.
    ENDSNIP

    Distinct threat of facing legal action (for doing your job)...
     
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    If a court case can be made BEFORE his fat ass takes the oath (he won't follow), he won't be seated... ya know, like T**** epically failed to do in 2020...
     
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    Well, there's always indictment... Most of the people issued subpoena's here are likely targets of the investigation, not straight witnesses..
     
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    Being indicted doesn’t prevent one from pleading the fifth. Actually it makes it more likely.
     
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    Too bad that’ll never happen lol
     
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    I tell you what. Let’s put our names where our mouths are.

    I assert that Trump will not be convicted of any crime that would preclude him for running for re-election and, barring any health issues, he will run for Republican primary, he will win and he will defeat the democrat nominee. The democrats will refuse a peaceful transition of power by the end of day Jan 6th and Trump will STILL be your new president.

    If I’m wrong. You get to create a name and password for me to use and I have to post under that name for a year. If I’m wrong I get to create a name and password for you to use and you have to post under that name for a year.

    Deal?
     
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    100% agree... zero chance T**** holds elective office in this country again...

    Well, maybe he and Melania will elect him mayor of Mar-A-Lago, in some sad, 2 person election.
     

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