Rudy Giuliani, Lindsey Graham and John Eastman subpoenaed by Fulton County DA in election probe

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  1. ShadowX

    ShadowX Well-Known Member

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    Yes but he was talking about attacking the Capitol. Which has nothing to do with this grand jury
     
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    @Nemesis also said "Fabricating a lie and using that lie to attempt to subvert an election is just "political opposition" now?" And that has everything to do with the grand jury.
     
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    But don’t worry. Like I told you before. If trump wins in 2024. The democrats WILL refuse a peaceful transition of power.

    And then there will be all sorts of phone calls and state issues to investigate by grand jury’s called by Republican prosecutors.
     
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    That’s right. But we haven’t gotten to the part where the democrats fabricate a lie by asserting trump cheated to win the 2024 election in order to justify their refusal of a peaceful transition of power.

    But don’t worry. We will get there.
     
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    I don't share your eagerness for corruption, but I have no doubt that the GOP will engage in such despotic depravity the next time they gain power.
     
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    The lie was from Trump. As was the attempt to steal the election. He failed, and hopefully he will be held accountable.
     
  7. ShadowX

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    I don’t understand? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

    If the democrats refuse a peaceful transition of power, I’m sure you wouldn’t support them in that and would want to prosecute them to the fullest extent like you’re doing with trump. Right?
     
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    I don't share your hatred for the Constitution. I think it is pretty dandy and I'd like to keep it around.

    Without hesitation. Lock them the **** up if they pull a Trump.
     
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    I hope that’s true. Because you’re going to get your opportunity to prove it. The democrats are already creating the setup by asserting he’s a threat to the country and democracy. If trump wins I GUARANTEE they will refuse a peaceful transition of power. Whereas trump did not refuse the peaceful transition of power by the appointed time. I would assume you would consider the democrats refusing to do so by Jan 6th to be far more egregious than what trump did.

    In fact I believe you might be telling the truth… unfortunately I also believe that a lot of those on the left will not agree with you.
     
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    He's not only a threat to democracy, but the biggest threat to democracy we've faced since the Civil War. If the Dems choose to emulate him, then they will become his equal, but I don't see that happening.
     
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    I expect another 30 hours of live testimony from Mrs. Clinton on how she orchestrated the 2024 election theft attempt...

    Or some such bullshit...
     
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    I must say I find that rather hyperbolic when you all didn’t even blink an eye when Clinton and the democrat party literally paid a foreign intelligence agent to fabricate a dossier of fake information to feed to our federal bureau of investigations, lied to them on multiples of occasions and proceeded to use their fake information they paid for to initiate a spying campaign on a presidential nominee. And yet you sit here and call trump the greatest threat to democracy…

    But whatever helps you sleep better at night
     
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    Agree... about the same pct of T**** winning in 2024.... Very very low...

    There is a tiny little corner of a battlefield in Gettysburg (the last time angry MAGA prototypes fought the government) marking the @ farthest anybody got during Pickett's charge called the "high water mark of the confederacy'.

    The high water mark of the MAGA movement will likely be recorded as 10/26/2020.... It's taking longer to kill that movement than it did to end the confederacy, and there are still some small battles to be lost, but the end result is no longer in doubt...
     
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    He might be standing... you never know...

    But he's 95% correct... McConnell still has an active hat in that ring...
     
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    You should read more. The dossier was originally funded by Republicans. When Clinton and the Dems started funding it, they did so indirectly. They hired a law firm that had hired a consultant, etc. etc. And there's no evidence they even knew Steele was the one working on it. I don't think he even finished it for them before they dropped him. And, here's the kicker, I STILL ****ING SUPPORTED INVESTIGATIONS INTO THAT. Read, buddy. Read. Oh, and the dossier did not "initiate a spying campaign." The investigation (which was well-deserved) predates the dossier.

    And, yes, what Trump did was far, far, far worse. You are projecting your hypocrisy onto others, and you aren't even very good at it. But whatever helps you sleep better at night.
     
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    Way too polite... he's freaking horrible at it...

    Comparing the Steele Dossier to T****'s attempts to overturn an election he lost is apples vs Jewish Space Lasers...
     
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    False he said they would find many more illegal votes but that number was all that was needed.
     
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    Since when is it against the law to challenge the outcome of an election? Was Al Gore charged with a crime when he set about to challenge in 2000 and use selective recounts to find just the number of votes he needed to win?
     
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    He's an idiot, at best, but that isn't an excuse. Georgia had already looked into his idiotic claims and debunked them. They told him this. On the call. He still kept pressuring them, even threatening them. It isn't okay to try to overthrow elections and install an unelected dictator. Why are you defending that ****?
     
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    Republicans had nothing to do with Hillary's dossier stop posting false information.
     
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    All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state.

    He was either trying to bully them or he’s just delusional.
     
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    Trump didn't just try to "challenge the outcome of an election." He tried to reverse it. If all he wanted was a recount (and he got every recount he requested, unlike Gore), there would be no issue.
     
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    The dossier was originally commissioned by Republicans. How is it that you don't know this already?
     
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    And? Trump believed, rightly it wrongly, illegal votes were being counted, knowingly so. Anyone involved in it if true could be subject to prosecution.
     
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    So is that a yes he would remain in power because the Dems would not impeach and remove him?
     

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