Running Newsticker for the War in Ukraine

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  1. The Scotsman

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    ...errmmm...anyone other than Dennis think that the Mirage 2000 is going to work out well for the Ukes..... now they would have to run 2 completely independent aircraft eco-systems from weapons to logistics / maintenance / training etc. etc. etc......plus it's not that great an aircraft operating on it's own in a multi-layered air defence environment.....I don't know.....all seems like wishful thinking

    How is this a good idea for a country with no experience at all with Western aircraft....just goes to show there is no actual plan here.....lots of good speeches but no plan....
     
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    It's at least a visible signal of French commitment.
     
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    yeah but I think he's signaling his intention to get more of a foot in on the ground floor for all the re-building contracts and financing deals when this ands and the real money starts changing hands...I think he's got the interests of the likes of BNP and CACIB and Thales etc in mind. I have a feeling there's a subtle shift going on in the EU; a gentle tug of love between a declining German and an ascendent France. I think there's a view that the EU (France) want more of a say in Ukraine when it quietens down and they don't like the US getting all the headlines and glory....
    UK's out of the game as we can't compete with the EU Secretariat or the US so we'll lobby as best we can for whatever scraps come our way...one thing in UKs favour though is....well...they actually like us...go figure!!??
     
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    Flying Friendly shrapnel …oh my.
     
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    Multiple systems for something as complicated as as fighter aircraft is indeed problematic for training, operations, maintenance of mechanicals. avionics, electronics, etc
     
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    Quote from HAYES Post 9876—- “
    • “The provision of Western air defense systems and the lifting of Westernrestrictions on Ukraine's ability to strike military targets Russian territory with Western-provided weapons remain crucial for Ukraine to repel Russian glidebomb and missile strikes against Kharkiv City.”
    • Yet FOPS ( friends of Putin ) and other types such as MAGA and chicken sh..t so called GOP conservatives seem to blame Ukraine because Russia invaded.

    • Opinion
     
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    Ernest Hemingway once wrote that France is the easiest country in which to make friends, and the friendships are sincere because they have a sound financial basis.
    International relationships based on material interests are durable.
     
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    The Pootster hopes to outlast NATO and Ukraine.

    Ukraine Conflict Updates
    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, June 7, 2024

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    Key Takeaways:


    • Russian President Vladimir Putin articulated a theory of victory in Ukraine on June 7 that assumes that Russian forces will be able to continue gradual creeping advances indefinitely, prevent Ukraine from conducting successful operationally significant counteroffensive operations, and win a war of attrition against Ukrainian forces.
    • Putin's theory of victory rests on Russia's ability to outlast and overcome pledged Western security assistance to Ukraine and Ukrainian efforts to mobilize more of its economy and population for the war effort, indicating that Putin likely assesses that Russian forces will be able to leverage their advantages in manpower and materiel to overwhelm on Ukrainian forces.
    • Putin's theory of victory hinges on a critical assumption that the West will abandon Ukraine to Russian victory, either on its own accord or in response to Russian efforts to persuade the West to do so, and it is far from clear that the West will do so.
    • Putin indirectly indicated that Ukrainian strikes on Russian territory with Western-provided weapons do not cross a supposed Russian "red line" that would result in Russian nuclear escalation.
    • Putin heavily focused on proposals to solve Russia's labor shortage issues during his speech at SPIEF on June 7.
    • Putin attempted to frame Russia's economic issues in a positive light, likely to prepare Russian citizens to make more personal sacrifices as Russia sustains a protracted war in Ukraine at the expense of Russian citizens’ standards of living.
    • Putin continued efforts to portray Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as an illegitimate president and identified the Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada (parliament) as a legitimate actor with which the Kremlin can negotiate instead of Zelensky. Putin’s recent statements are the latest in a series designed to obfuscate the legality of Zelensky's extended term by misrepresenting the Ukrainian Constitution and Ukrainian laws.
    • Putin attempted to introduce his children and the children of other senior Russian officials to the public sphere at SPIEF, likely to set conditions for them to eventually assume high-profile and powerful roles in the Russian government.
    • US National Security Council Senior Director for Arms Control, Disarmament, and Nonproliferation Pranay Vaddi stated that the US has prepared a new nuclear weapons policy specifically to deter Russia, the People's Republic of China (PRC), North Korea, and Iran.
    • The US Department of Defense (DoD) announced a $225 million security assistance package for Ukraine on June 7.
    • French President Emmanuel Macron announced on June 6 that France will provide Ukraine with an unspecified number of Mirage 2000-5 fighter jets and equip and train a brigade of 4,500 Ukrainian soldiers.
    • The Russian Supreme Court declared an organization that does not exist as "extremist" on June 7, consistent with previous ISW assessments that Russia seeks to expand the legal definition of "extremism" to increasingly prosecute domestic anti-war sentiment.
    • The Kremlin continues efforts to destabilize the Balkans and dismantle the 1995 Dayton Accords that ended the 1992-1995 Bosnian War, likely as part of a larger strategic effort that seeks to divide and distract Europe.
    • Russian forces recently advanced near Svatove, near Chasiv Yar, and northwest of Avdiivka. . . .

     
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    • Russian President Vladimir Putin articulated a theory of victory in Ukraine on June 7 that assumes that Russian forces will be able to continue gradual creeping advances indefinitely, prevent Ukraine from conducting successful operationally significant counteroffensive operations, and win a war of attrition against Ukrainian forces.
    • ...
    • Russian forces recently advanced near Svatove, near Chasiv Yar, and northwest of Avdiivka. . . .


      That's exactly what's happening. I'm sorry but We need to be realistic as to what the hell is going on. I don't see any plans for a counter offensive. I don't see any gains by Ukraine. I see a ship sunk here, some planes crashed there but at the end of the day, the map is creeping to the left. It's time to negotiate.
     
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    "What the hell is going on" is that the Russians have already suffered a comprehensive strategic defeat. Only two real questions remain: Can Putin himself survive the fiasco? And what will be the terms by which Russia will be permitted to extract themselves from their foolish adventure?
     
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    Russia can't get enough replacements to establish full operational and strategic reserves.

    Ukraine Conflict Updates
    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, June 8, 2024

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    Key Takeaways:




      • The Russian military command is reportedly transferring an unspecified number of forces to the Ukrainian-Russian border area near Kharkiv Oblast, but it is unclear if the Russian military command plans to immediately commit these redeployed forces to combat or use them to reinforce the Northern Grouping of Forces to bring it closer to its reported planned end strength.
      • Ukrainian military observer Kostyantyn Mashovets noted on June 8 that a fraction of the reported 30,000 personnel that Russia generates each month arrives at the front as combat force replacements and reinforcements and that Russian force generation efforts have allowed Russian forces to establish only limited operational and strategic reserves.
      • Ukrainian forces conducted a drone strike against a Russian military airfield in the North Ossetia-Alania Republic on the night of June 7 to 8.
      • Russian strikes have caused widespread damage to Ukraine's energy grid, and Ukraine will continue to face serious constraints on power generation capacity.
      • US President Joe Biden met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Paris on June 7.
      • Longtime Russian Central Bank Head Elvira Nabiullina is reportedly a balancing force among Russian President Vladimir Putin's economic advisors despite pressure for Russian officials to unequivocally support the long-term war effort in Ukraine.
      • Ukraine's Main Military Intelligence Directorate (GUR) and Russian opposition outlets reported that unspecified actors attempted to assassinate the former Russian occupation mayor of Kupyansk, Kharkiv Oblast, Hennadiy Matsehora in Stary Oskol, Belgorod Oblast on June 7.
      • Russian forces recently advanced north of Kharkiv City, southeast of Kupyansk, within easternmost Chasiv Yar, northwest of Avdiivka, and southwest of Donetsk City.
      • Russian actors are using video appeals from Russian servicemen to refute reports of high Russian losses in northern Kharkiv Oblast. . . .
     
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    If they keep inching forward, how is that a defeat?

    He just had an election. He removed anybody with opposing opinions off the ballot. Russians seem to be happy with him. He doesn't really need to travel anywhere that isn't his ally, so he's not getting arrested anytime soon... Explain to me what you think the defeat is?
     
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    The territory is trivial and will be adjusted in any settlement. Since the war began, NATO has grown bigger (Sweden, Finland), stronger (increased defense spending) and nearer (see Sweden and Finland). Russia meanwhile is weaker, poorer and more isolated.
    Ukraine's turn to the West has become irreversible.
    All of these outcomes are what Putin went to war to prevent or stop. Instead his war has brought them about.
     
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    Russian interference with international grain shipments is another way Putin is making more enemies for Russia.

    “"This war must end. And it can only end on the basis of justice and reason," African Union Commission Chairman Moussa Faki Mahamat told Putin and African leaders in St Petersburg.

    "The disruptions of energy and grain supplies must end immediately. The grain deal must be extended for the benefit of all the peoples of the world, Africans in particular.””

    African leaders tell Putin: 'We have a right to call for peace'
    The Business Standard
    https://www.tbsnews.net › World+Biz › Africa

    7 hours ago — [June 9, 2024] Ukraine conflict and to renew a deal crucial to Africa on the ... The Ukrainian Grain Association estimated in May that 4 million metric tons of Ukrainian grain ...
    https://www.tbsnews.net/worldbiz/africa/african-leaders-tell-putin-we-have-right-call-peace-673170
     
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    To settle you need to negotiate. Until then, it seems to be the case that the majority of the land Russia takes Russia keeps and they keep taking land...

    So like you said, it's time to negotiate
     
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    Russia has lost about half of what they took in 2022.
    When to negotiate, if ever, is for the Ukrainians to decide. It's their country.
    From the perspective purely of US interests, there's no urgency at all to negotiate. Russia is stuck in the mud and getting weaker every day. To that we are properly indifferent.
     
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    Desperation in Moscow:

    https://news.yahoo.com › news › not-just-convicts-russia-forcing-050807355.html
    It's not just convicts. Russia is forcing its African migrants and ...


    TodayThousands of Africans have been forced to join in Russia's war against Ukraine, per Bloomberg. The country has also been plugging its manpower gaps by sending prison inmates to the battlefield. Russia is forcing thousands of African migrants and students to join in their war efforts against Ukraine,
    https://news.yahoo.com/news/not-just-convicts-russia-forcing-050807355.html
     
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    The Ukrainians' arm is long, and the Russians are rounding up migrants to fill out their ranks.

    Ukraine Conflict Updates
    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, June 9, 2024

    Click here to read the full report with maps
    Key Takeaways:


    • The Biden Administration’s limited policy change permitting Ukraine to use US-provided weapons to strike some Russian military targets in a small area within Russian territory has reduced the size of Russia’s ground sanctuary by only 16 percent at maximum. US policy still preserves at least 84 percent of Russia's ground sanctuary – territory within range of Ukrainian ATACMS.
    • Likely Ukrainian forces struck a Russian Su-57 fighter aircraft at the Akhtubinsk Airfield in Astrakhan Oblast between June 7 and 8.
    • Ukrainian forces may have struck a Russian large landing ship or patrol boat in Yeysk, Krasnodar Krai on the night of June 8 to 9.
    • The Kremlin's concerted effort to remove and arrest senior Russian defense officials may be extending to civilian regional administration officials.
    • The pro-Kremlin Moldovan Victory opposition electoral bloc held its second congress in Moscow on June 9 following a series of meetings between pro-Kremlin Moldovan opposition politicians and Russian officials from June 6 to 9.
    • Former pro-Russian Moldovan president and current head of the Moldovan Socialist Party Igor Dodon gave interviews to Russian state news agencies TASS and RIA Novosti on June 9 in which he promoted several known Kremlin narratives targeting the current Moldovan government – many of which Moldovan opposition politicians also promoted at the Victory bloc congress.
    • The Kremlin will likely try to exploit its ties to Dodon as part of its wider efforts to destabilize Moldovan democracy and influence the Moldovan government.
    • Russian forces recently advanced near Kupyansk, Siversk, Chasiv Yar, Avdiivka, and Donetsk City.
    • Russian officials continue efforts to coerce migrants into military service. . . .
     
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    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/05/ukraine-f-16-pilot-training-00161742
     
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    Good news for Ukraine:


    https://www.politico.eu › article › ukraine-allies-weapons-country-russia-kyiv-battle-boost-western-support-aid-economy-war

    It isn't all bad news for Ukraine - POLITICO

    Today [6/11/2024] So far, Ukraine's skillful economic policymaking has maintained macroeconomic and financial stability in the country, despite the toll of the war. After a crash of 29.1 percent in 2022, Ukraine's economy grew 5 percent in 2023 — faster than all other large European economies — and strong growth is
    https://www.politico.eu/article/ukr...battle-boost-western-support-aid-economy-war/
     
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    The Ukrainian reach extends to the Barents Sea.

    Ukraine Conflict Updates
    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, June 11, 2024

    Click here to read the full report.
    Key Takeaways:


    • Ukraine's Western allies continue to provide monetary and military assistance to Ukraine, including air defense systems.
    • The Kremlin continues efforts to codify legal instruments and repressive measures intended to broadly censor foreigners and foreign organizations in Russia.
    • A prominent Kremlin-awarded Russian milblogger channel announced that it opened a second "media school" in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan, likely to support Kremlin efforts to expand its influence in the international information space, particularly in Central Asia.
    • Danish authorities arrested a Danish-Russian dual citizen accused of having connections to Russian intelligence services, which is likely part of the Kremlin's continued efforts to re-intensify its hybrid campaign against Western countries.
    • Kremlin newswire TASS reported on June 11 that the former Head of the Russian Ministry of Defense's (MoD) Military Academy, Grigory Molchanov, was appointed Deputy Secretary of the Russian Security Council.
    • Russian forces recently advanced southeast of Kupyansk and northwest of Avdiivka.
    • Russia may have suffered a damaged or destroyed military naval vessel in the Barents Sea.
    • Belarusian officials continue to implicate themselves in the illegal deportation of Ukrainian children to Belarus and their re-education in Belarusian programs. . . .

     
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    I know SNAFU, FUBAR , and OMGIF which is not on your list. OMGIF = OH MY GOD I’M FU’ED …. TARFU Ican guess maybe TOTALLY AND ROYALLY F’,,D. UP No clue about BOHICA. or FUBU….??
     
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