Russia and China Arrest Attempts to Stop NK War Crimes

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  1. happy fun dude

    happy fun dude New Member

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    I speak out much against the Western Alliance and their support of horrific warlords, fascists and terrorists around the world. But this does not mean I support Putin or excuse this in any case. My allegiance is to the golden rule and human rights, which is more important to me than any country.

    North Korea is the human rights black hole of the world. NK are also best friends of Russia and China, as all countries have explicitly confirmed.

    Russia and China both snubbed the UNSC meeting to bring this out. In order for the UN to do anything about NK, the Security Council must agree, and these two countries ALWAYS stonewall it. https://uk.news.yahoo.com/u-n-inquiry-chief-wants-north-korea-hauled-214721937.html#npmzc14

    THIS is the one actually appropriate use of force in my opinion.

    The world needs to put aside their conflict of strategic interests for a while, and come together in a concerted effort to restore human rights around the world, in Sudan, Syria, North Korea, Palestine, everywhere.

    But as long as they support abuse against innocent people, they have no moral high grounds to blab on about how they want peace or democracy.. At least be honest about it. Unfortunately, this is most everybody, including USA, EU, and especially Russia and China, who maintain authoritarian control in their own countries.
     
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    Happy fun Dude, I hope you are one happy dude indeed. I noticed this odd fact long ago. North Korea is a disgrace to the humankind, and all those great powers do not care of this fact, pursuing their geopolitics. I think both Russia and China do so, because they use it as a tool to drive a little pin in the butt of NATO and USA from time to time. Besides, North Korea has nukes, which is "bad to our health" in case of serious conflict and there are is oil in North Korea...
     
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    I don't believe either China or Russia are ally's of NK in the true sense. I believe the relationship is based on a fear NK will send refugees across their border and into both countries creating a serious crisis. And yes, NK does have nukes. It's more like a relationship based on blackmail.
     
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    We should constantly look for new approaches. I don't still have the link, but a few months ago, it was reported that a Korean minister has managed to open an American college in North Korea which is being attended by the children of top North Korean government and military officials. The students are beginning to think that the United States isn't as bad as they grew up believing.

    I suppose that it is too much to think that those students in a couple of decades will create a democratic North Korea which is a friend of the United States, or a unification with South Korea, though that could happen. The point is, who would have thought that an American college could possibly be established in North Korea. Yet it has happened.

    So we should look for more if these kinds of unlikely methods that might help in undemocratic nations.
     
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    This is because Communists are less feared of then Muslim fanatics. Iran is a theocracy and it supports certain terrorist groups. In fact nukes are best peace keepers. Americans are not afraid of starting another war. An average American wants the world fear of us. This is because "oligarchs" and middle class families do not have to send their kids to fight, we use a hired army instead. We trumpet "support the troops" at home, use stickers and ribbons and, of course, corporate media works hard, but we still afraid of nukes, because this kind of weapons can hurt everyone even at home and destroy all our benefits brought by the war.
     
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    I can see you're point, but a more democratic and more peaceful Korea could be decades away, if it ever happens. Until then, one of the most militarized and least peaceful countries in the world is being governed by a lunatic who has declared the US a "sworn enemy" of his regime. The world is not secure as long as North Korea exists in its current form, and it may or may not change in the future.
     
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    What do you mean?

    I admit, I don't have one. I don't think North Korea should have been allowed to develop nuclear weapons in the first place. I'm not sure what a good solution would be, other than completely overthrowing the North Korean government, which is extremely risky.
     
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    Why China and Russia must decide what kind of sort the North Korea should to be? But maybe for the northern korean so better to live as it is You know their way of life? You know their culture?
     
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    I never said North Korea was not a threat. But some people have grown complacent. Many people thought we should go to war with Iran over nuclear weapons. Why don't we hear war cries over North Korea?
     
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    If we go to war with Iran, it will most likely be just Iran. With NK, we will be up against China and Russia. And NK has nukes now which makes it more difficult. I served in Korea up by the D back in the 70's. I know what a hell hole it is. I've watched a few documentaries as well. For now they seem to hold all the cards.
     

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