Russia, China Pledge New Military Ties, Challenge U.S

So we are only fooling some of the american people. Our mode of operation is well known by this point. And the thing is, it really is obvious what our mode of operation is. We just lie, and then attack. But then our forage into the middle east has followed these lines. I guess when you want to break international law, you gotta lie in order to try to justify it? Otherwise you would have to tell the world, "we are not subject to your international law, so go and screw yourself." So we use plausible deniability. Sketchy at best, but it is all we can do.

I would think that the US is the cause of driving russia and china closer, and it is the outcome of stupid neocon foreign policy. Only an arrogant bunch of sociopaths would have ever come up with this scheme to begin with. IMO.

 

Well said. I think you just noted a most basic truth. And isn't this the very history of human civilization. So it is has been around and has been the paradigm since the rise of civilization. And we cannot seem to grow out of it. Because it is a manifestation of human nature, no matter what part of the world you look at. It is what human beings do, until we, if ever, evolve in the psychological sphere. I think in the long term it will destroy humanity given that we now have the means to do that, us, russia and china. For I hold zero chance of homo sapien sapiens ever evolving out of it. But unlike other life forms, ours has always been self destructive and only a lack of technology has allowed it to be total. Yes I am a pessimist, but for rational reasons, and I wish I did not have to be. But our historical reality as a species determines this, at least for me. We will not end well.

At some point there will be conflicts over diminishing resources, and it is probably inevitable. And that is the 800 pound ape that sits in the corner. That will not happen soon of course, but it will happen. Unless of course we go into space to mine asteroids. Yet it takes resources to get there, including rare earth elements, and china is in control of so much of that, which they ration out.

And so, IMO, unless we ditch neocon driven foreign policy, or darth vader foreign policy, we will get to the inevitable much sooner, as we cast aside policies that might work over the long term. Before Star Wars, the films, moved into the SJW sphere, it was a wonderful and entertaining story of the history of humanity, although today there is really no pure good vs pure evil, as we have moved into the dark side along with others. The Good does not do as we have done in the middle east, with our sanctions on Iraq killing half a million kids. This is what darth vader does

 

Plain old fashioned common sense for them to join together as military allies, following the Trump doctrine to treat both as the US's major enemies. The US policy of dividing and conquering isn't going to work any more as both are cute to that tactic.

 

You must not forget that our elites have enriched themselves like never before by using the slave labor from china. And it is because of our elites that we have enriched china and enabled its historical rise. No slave labor, no maxing of profits for our elites. Slave labor globalism is just the newest scheme of the elites to enrich themselves and they knew it would enable and empower china with new found wealth. So did their puppets in DC. And they did not give a damn. For neither seem to owe any allegiance, in reality, to the US.

The greed of the elites is behind all of this, make no mistake about it. And of course they will put that over even a nation state, like the USA. Our Founders were very wise men in so many areas. They were wise enough to not to want to follow the path our politicians and our elites have put us on. Slave labor globalism is such a path as well as foreign entanglements. The entanglements that led to things like our invasion of the middle east and our meddling in the affairs of other nations like south america.

Very little is done these days in the interests of the american people. Evidenced by congressional record used by Princeton to evidence that.

 

Yes it is just plain old common sense, I agree. If they did not do it, they would be as idiotic as our neocon foreign policy is. We have told the world, those that pay attention, what our foreign policy is, american hegemony for the 21st century. All they have to do is to read PNAC and then watch us in aciton to verify it. When you tell everyone else what our plans are....and only are our elites arrogant enough to do that. They don't even try to hide it.

 

First, thank you for the compliment.

Secondly, conflicts over diminishing resources have already begun. In fact, they have been going on for DECADES in the modern, industrial age we currently live in, at least as far back as the discovery of oil in the Middle East.

The truth that most politicians won't tell their citizens/constituents, is that ALL wars are fought for CONTROL of resources.

The reason the West is in dispute with Russia and China is because they will not allow the U.S. SOLE control of the world's resources, which challenges U.S global hegemony.

This is why both Republicans and Democrats are adversarial towards Russia and China.

 

china already tie up US force in W.pacific just by claiming ScS island, build more navy ships. US already put 60% of its newest force to pacific. To China Taiwan is top priority, if they get the chance they will take it.

 

and yet, we have issue with them on ScS, Taiwan, Iran deal, Syria pretty much everywhere else. Japan was also in good relationship with US before WWII. things change, we have so many geopolitical issues with China, Russia don't.

 

If China attempts to take Taiwan, it will suffer billions of dollars in economic damage. China is Taiwan's largest trading partner. They are much better off trading with them than destroying them and spending billions on rebuilding them. While Taiwan would lose that war, they have an ability to cause some damage to mainland China as well, which is not something China wants to happen. In addition, China would suffer more from loss of trade and sanctions fro the west.

 

I just don't get where they are imagining a 'liberal' American dominated international world order.

 

it would depend on the situation. the current Taiwan gov is pro-independent, and they have cool down right now. China is not gonna wait forever for unification. At some pts its gonna push for it, it could be peaceful or not. But if US concentrate on Russia and divert its resource for whatever reason, then china could take advantage of the situation.

 

Yes, just a matter of time isn't it? Be a great excuse to increase military spending to 1 trillion and cut social safety nets as deep as possible without creating a violent revolution.

 

Here is something to take to heart (center of your consciousness):
Empires are unnatural and outside of Creation. The premise of all Creation is FREEDOM, INDEPENDENCE, and SELF-GOVERNANCE! These are ACTUAL LAWS. On the subject of laws; laws are immutable such as the Law of procreation. A Man and a Woman copulate and the woman becomes impregnated and all things going correct, nine (9) months later, the Woman gives birth to a child. This is an example of Law; immutable and unchanged. What is passed by governments are not laws, they are edicts and decrees. Governments NEVER institute LAWS.
With the above stated, American Hegemony is something that I oppose and will never support. As to China, Russia, Iran and India, all have the absolute right to join in cooperation on any level that they deem necessary and fit and none of this is any of the business of neither the United States nor anyone else. I know, that those who seek to prop up the empire that should never have been, “Those Russians, those Chinese, those Indians, those Iranians . . .” No amount of paranoia cover can hide the obvious desire to forever prop-up an eons old global system that has met its end. Neither fictional Mythological God nor force of arms can be used as a shield or guard for an inordinate and evil desire to remain over people that you had no business ruling over in the first place.

 

Maybe not while the party is still rockin' and rollin' to the break of dawn.

 

The UN has nothing to do with anything. It is just a place where anti americans gather.

 

On the topic of "The Demise of the Dictator":

http://www.collective-evolution.com...ng-an-electric-car-that-never-needs-charging/

 

And vote against America, now why would that be good for Russia and China....

 

I say it did anybody any good. I consider the UN to be worthless.

 

Are you kidding me saying that UN is a place where antiamericans gather?
Just have a look on the last votings. For example on that fake chemical attack.
I would say that UN is a place where people vote what US tells them to vote.
It's a circus.