Russia: Poor Election Showing Weakens Putin:

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  1. raymondo

    raymondo Banned

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    So what was the little fellow doing between 1999 and 2007?
    What agents did he find and get rid of ?
    Paranoia , Hugi . Just like Communist times .

    As for the Presidential election . Without doubt , it will be the most interesting one ever . There could be a few big surprises .
     
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    Think tanks and reconnaissance work in Russia and the surprises we're ready.
    But Russia may respond asymmetrically and then in the case of Western Europe will become even worse.
     
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    Things are getting harder as the Thugs and Pack Animals get organised

    Tuesday Night Protests Fell Flat in the Face of Nashi Opposition and a Police Crackdown


    12/07/2011
    For the third day in a row, opposition protestors went out on the streets Tuesday night to voice frustrations over allegations of election tampering and ballot stuffing that will give the leading party a slight majority in the coming Parliament. Yet this time, they met a well-organized counter-protest put on by several Kremlin youth groups, including members of Nashi, Young Guard and Steel, who easily drowned out the protestors and cheered on security services who rounded up and detained close to 200 opposition protestors. With many key figures in prison and the leading opposition political parties keeping their distance from the protests, commentators are worried that the opposition may lose steam before it even gets going.
    A series of protests and counter-protests yesterday kicked off during the day, when Nashi members gathered in Red Square to voice their support for the ruling party. Toward the evening, as temperatures fell below freezing on Revolutionary Square across from the historic Bolshoi Theater, Untied Russia activists celebrating the party’s tight victory gathered to listen to speeches from leading party figures.

    Yet the real focus of the evening was on an opposition rally planned at Triumfalnaya Square, the traditional meeting point for Russia’s Strategy 31 rallies (held on the 31st day of the month) and now a fenced-off construction site. Yet close to 6:30 in the evening, as opposition protestors exited the metro and came to the square, they were outnumbered and outmaneuvered by several Kremlin youth groups pounding drums, drowning out their anti-administration slogans. Police pushed opposition protestors through a gauntlet of youth agitators chanting: “Russia, Putin, Russia, Putin.”

    It quickly became clear how much better organized the pro-government supporters in the crowd were. Many of the youth had been bused into the city (with parental consent) to participate in the counter-protests after more than 4,000 liberal protestors came to Monday night’s “Return Honest Elections” protest. “We came out tonight to support our party’s victory and to show that most Russians truly support Putin,” said Viktoria, a 16-year-old from Lipetsk, a city about six hours drive from the capital. She, along with 600 other youth activists, had met early in the morning, taken buses into the city and would be returning to Lipetsk overnight. Local media had reported that some of the Nashi youths were paid to take part in the events, but Viktoria denied that she or any of her friends received compensation.

    The arrests of opposition leaders are clearly taking their toll. On Monday night, Solidarnost youth coordinator Ilya Yashin and blogger Alexei Navalny, widely credited as a leading figure in the post-election criticism movement, were arrested and sentenced to 15 days in prison for disobeying police orders. Appeals from both were denied today by a Moscow court. Last evening Parnas head Boris Nemtsov and Yabloko leader Sergei Mitrokhin were arrested by the police, along with 250 other demonstrators.

    “No, there are no leaders here,” said 20-year-old Alexander, a student and teaching assistant who was standing in a crowd of oppositionists losing a shouting match to a troupe of Young Guard members waving teddy bears. “They’ve pretty much locked up everyone, there’s nobody in charge and we don’t have a plan for what to do.” Fifteen minutes later, OMON riot troops tore through the crowds of oppositionists, arresting some and cordoning off the rest of the square for the evening.

    Oleg Kozyrev, an influential blogger close to the opposition, noted that the political parties that regularly oppose the Kremlin, including the Communist Party, Just Russia and even Yabloko, had so far approached the protestors “carefully,” and had balked at throwing their full support behind the oppositionists. “On Monday night at the protests, you only saw representatives for these parties, but you didn’t see [Just Russia head Sergei] Mironov or [Yabloko head Grigory] Yavlinsky on stage. These parties work with the Kremlin too, and they’re not ready to give their full support to the opposition,” he said.
     
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    It will be fun if in London and Paris again to start riots.
     
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    Putin called for greater accountability for those who are commissioned by foreign countries to interfere in the internal processes in Russia.

    "Within the country there is the political struggle inside and outside the country too. We shake, so we do not forget who on this planet, the master, to obey. But when money from abroad, invest in political activity - cause to think. Especially unacceptable coming into the electoral process. Hundreds of millions of dollars invested in this work! Within the ONF and the deputies need to talk, you need to develop a form of protection from external interference, "- said Putin at a meeting with members of the All-Russian Coordination Council of the People's Front, reports ER.ru.

    According to him, Russia is not against foreign election observers in Russia, but will not interfere in the internal affairs of the country from abroad. "We would like to have the political electoral processes seen by foreign observers. We are for it, we do not mind. But we have a law, when they begin to fund some internal organization, which allegedly are our national, but in fact working for foreign money and perform the music room of a foreign state in the electoral process, we must protect ourselves from this intervention in our internal affairs and protect our sovereignty, "- said Putin was quoted as saying" Interfax ".

    "Protect our sovereignty, we must, and will need to think about improving legislation, strengthening of accountable those who do the tasks of the foreign state to influence the political processes", - he stressed.

    Putin also touched upon the observation of elections in the U.S., where, he says, "generally will not let the observers." "It's very hard it's actually much less liberal, what we have," - said Putin.

    For those who do not understand - in Russia will be banned foreign funding of NGOs.
     
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    I read somewhere, just after the result of election, that Russia will do one of the following three things:

    (1) Putin and United Russia will strengthen liberal-democracy in Russia by involving other parties
    (2) Putin may throw Medvedev under the bus
    (3) Russia will blame "foreign enteties", especially USA for interfering

    Looks option 3 is becoming reality.
     
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    Hugi ,
    I say again , this happened already a few years ago . Can I send you some top English news papers so you can keep up with the news ?
    Prior to the silly ban , a few excellent British ones (NGOs ) were represented which promoted shared cultural values and swapped visits . Also charitable concerns which gave educational help to deprived children .
    But obviously Putin is not interested in deprived children !!!
     
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    U.S. authorities have provided more than $ 9 million in financial aid to Russian non-governmental organizations to ensure "free and transparent" elections to the Duma on December 4, and they were not worked out.

    Money down the drain.

    Now the accounts of these organizations will be arrested, and if will carry cash, then jailed for smuggling.
     
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    This is illogical and incorrect because we live in a global economy. We're all affected by other countries.
     
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    And in this global economy Russia has a place of donor for parasitic West.

    Anyway,whay do you want to proclaim by your attack of Russian elections?That communists in fact have won them?
     
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    Russia has its own space, air, auto, shipbuilding industry. Reserves of natural resources. Nuclear weapons. Therefore, Russia can provide itself with all necessary in all circumstances.
     
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