Russia: The Rally Day

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  1. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Not us people but Russian NKVD dressed up in the uniforms of the UPA.
    BANDERA was sent to a concentration camp by he Germans who offered him release fir cooperation later on. He said no.n
     
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    And there we go - from nearly intellegent conversation - down to the world of tinfoil hats and jidoreptiles.

    Why not just claim all russians are demons from parallel Hell dimension? Since you already is not operating anything real, why not at least have a FUN delusions?
     
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    By telling zoom to shut up you have given credence to Zoom's postulation that do employ the tactics and emotional development of a three year old telling his sister to " shut up your poopy face". Advice to you shake off the sand before you come inside or your mommy will spank you.
     
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    Moskaliy cannot handle the truth or as the older NKVD trolls here know the truth but post propaganda like the so called Volyn pictures.
     
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    Zoom does nothing, but smears **** over my country with any opportunity he spots, ignores arguments and constantly tries to provoke russians. I sure was giving him credence - for about a three weeks. He did everything to loose right for it. So yes - he can run into a wall head first for all I care, I discard his claims now for they come from not a reliable source.
    If you have any - tiniest - sort of national pride for Ukraine - you should do same. His words have as much credibility as words of deputy Milonov, and do as much harm, though in much lesser scale, considering he is restricted by this forum.
     
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    ...or I can just start ignoring you too, you dirty mouthed piece of salo.
     
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    About 100 protestors were arrested by police without reason is told in our MSM. So I'm skeptical about truth as usual... but since even Putin followers confirm this (of course here were arrest due to riots), it looks to be truth.

    Anyway ...
    Please be very cautious with such reproaches about what empires his neighbors.
    Sure, the reason for your words are well-known, but someone that made it too often, should not raise so much reproaches.
     
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    Russians denied that they committed the atrocities at Karyn Forest up to about 1989. Russians blamed the Germans and even blamed Ukrainians. Scientific evidence proved the peoplecwho the Russians executed at Karyn were shot in the back of the head with smaller calebre bulletts that forensics in the early 1990's showed were Soviet made. Germans used 9 mm or 7mm rifle ammo. Also the bodies were uncovered and many still had gold and silver crosses which further shows that it was not Germans. Germans being the efficient scum Turd bastards they they were as Nazis were known to strip bodies of their victims for anything "useful". The Nazis even cut human hair from Jews to use as fiber. Germans removed the gold from teeth. The Russian NKVD were committed atheists and non Christians hence they did not bother stripping the bodies of Christian crosses.

    You see I have the knowledge of getting first hand eyes whiteness of history from family and friends of parents. I also have the power of truth on my side.

    My mother told me about how she whittnessed Jews being executed by Germans at the far end of my grandfather's farm. Some of the Jews executed where neighbors.

    You have no such whiteness to history but all you have child is the first hand whitness of your own poop dripping out of your diaper.
     
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    ...serves as synonim for 'ignorance', hence it makes one bother less with questioning the knowledge they have.

    'power of truth'? Have about 'power of doubt' and checking and re-checking everything, before bringing it in the argument, and bringing it with the reliable sources?

    You mentioned scientific study of event? Cool! GIVE THE LINK. Don't just accuse - give proofs. THIS is how such conversation work.
     
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    So by you saying" to soft action in kyiv", the Russians should've invaded threw out" Nazis" and occupy? Seems obvious and no surprise, all Muscovites young and old harbor those feelings.
     
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    Ignorance is bliss on your part I see.theres been several examples put forth here by members, if you dig around you yourself would find examples, not the one your muscovite govt provides, most of it is BS. But like partizan said you're still this naive child.
     
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    See? He is incapable of dialogue, and desreves only to be discarded and despised.
     
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    Most are, just ask former Warsaw pact? Have you heard of that, or is that a delusion like you claim everyone has here.
     
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    Oh, let me guess - now you're going to pull something horrible about Warsaw pact. Don't bother, Zoom - your arguments invalid due to you being Zoom. Should've thought about that when was opening your blabbling mouth before.
     
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    Ninian, look, I try to point out indiscretions, so don't get upset, you ridicule us Americans, call me ukranian teenager, go feed Betsy, NAZI, and I play along, you went into a kineption over someone calling you "dude", it's not exactly derogatory. I post what claims I can find here, and it's up to others to decide whether it's credible or not. You can't deny the pro russian posters here don't try to smear ukranians any chance they get, I can name a few, and I wasn't on this comment board a week before someone called me a "nazi" because I presented a viewpoint contrary to theirs.
     
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    No, just pointing out, that it was a difficult time where many would like to forget!
     
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    You mentioned" action on kyiv"? That's wide open to interpretation afaic.
     
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    Don't even try. You call my nation muscovites, catsaps, moskalis, claim us being agressive, bloodthirsty animals, and despise any reason when it comes to our history - you do not deserve my looks, you lost your right for them, I do not trust you, do not believe you being intelligent, or decent, or capable of human feelings - for you repeatedly, openly rejected idea of my people having them. I call you nazy for your openly nationalistic views, I call you ukrainian for your openly ukrainian sympathies with lack of any care about USA, I call you teenager for your lack of consistent adult behaviour.
    You, by your actions, lost the right to have an opinion worthy of observing, you did it - you wore my patience thin, and now you face consequences. Every insult I spot - I will report, with a reference explainian why that is inappropriate, every claim and accusation I will discard, and every statement of yours I will consider compromised by coming from you.
     
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    That's your choice, like I said, I provided some examples before to you and you seem to dismiss them as propaganda, fine, and Russians have called ukranians "xoxols" probably as long as anyone cares to remember, and you seem oblivious to your country's past, your choice.
     
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    Word with no evidences - are not examples, they are accusation. I did not called ukrainians there 'khohols', but you kept ignoring that and insulting my nation, over and over and over again. I know my country's past much better than you, and unlike you - know it as a whole, and not as number of anti-russian slogans, depicting various events of history, torn out of context, like you did with Golodomor, claiming it was intentional and stroke the Ukraine exclusively, while people across all of Union starved because of government selling grain out of stocks, regardless of risk of bad crops - that happened, and led to famine, because government failed to recognise problem fast enough, failed provide people with food, and failed to save them from death of starvation.
    You do not care abot that, all you care about - is creating oreol of 'red menace' over it. You reject facts, and only bother with intentions - that cannot be proven with people responsible for that tradegy being already long dead, and incapable of answering for it. So - you demand answers from unrelated living people, who have nothing to do with event except for have their ancestors going through few years of starvation and, possibly, having some of them perished in the event.
     
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    The protests in Moscow were not sanctioned. They were given permission in another area but they refused, so that even there it would have been illegal. It depended on the authorities, because in some cities they were given permission, and in others they weren't.

    The 500 who were taken in were probably resisting the officers. As for Navalny he was charged and fined for organizing an illegal event. He was also given 15 days in jail for resisting arrest. According to RT the organizers lied to the protesters and told them that it was sanctioned, and according to Sputnik many were promised a monetary compensation.

    The journalist Mercouris of the Duran said that according to the police, it was anywhere from 5 to 8 thousand protesters in Moscow, which really means nothing since according to the American polls 80% of the Russians would vote for Vladimir Putin.
     
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    Many of the protests were not permitted, but no alternatives were given. In Moscow - alternative was presented the day before the rally, which technically allowed rally still being held on original location.
    Navalny promissed three days before rally that every detained RF citizen will have his assistance with bringing cate to international court and proving detaiment being unlawful and getting compensation for the illegal arrest.

    Most of detained were people who had the most expressive demonstration, with transparants, banners and those who were either starting chants or provoking crowd on agressive actions. Number of detained, I remind you, is not formed just from rally in Moscow, but from all rallies that took place across the country.

    Number of demonstrants on Moscow rally, given by mr. Mercouris appears to be lesser than actual numbers, that I can state as eye-witness and that have been bringed by various russian sources.

    I do not find polls performed by citizens of US reliable in estimating amount of public support to Vladimir Putin.
     
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    According to an article in Fort Rus the protests were nothing, but what should be worrying to Vladimir Putin is the amount of young and well fed bored teenagers who had no idea of what went on in the 90's with the American installed Yeltsin.

    Moscow protests: "Why don't these fed, fashionable teenagers with expensive smartphones chat to the teenagers of Makeevka, Gorlovka or Donetsk? Maybe they might understand something."

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    I am the eye-witness, rallies were not a 'nothing'.
     
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