Russia will target US jets in parts of Syria, defence ministry says

???what's with this Latvia? You're russki maybe and jealous as hell.

 

Let me give you a run down on Syria. In 2006 Washington decided to split Syria up for their own geo political reasons so the CIA and Soros set up their NGO's to foment trouble... which they did in 2012. The Syrians believed they were protesting for more rights, but when they realized they were being used and the county was being given to Salafists, they joined Assad's army.

Washington and its followers Britain and France, wanted Assad out because he wouldn't back stab Putin by having a gas pipe from Qatar break up Russia's monopoly to Europe. All of Syria's neighbors jumped in so they could claim a part and they formed the so called 'moderate' FSA which in reality worked with the terrorists.

Saudi Arabia supported ISIS so they could control Syria's oil around Raqqa, and the gas deposits for its future caliphate... as did Turkey. Turkey also armed ISIS and helped them so they could fight the Kurds. They also saw it as an opportunity to grab Aleppo and a few other parts of Syria.

Israel saw it as a chance to legalize its control of the Golan Heights and get rid of Assad because he was friendly with Iran and Hezbollah. Qatar saw it as an opportunity to build its gas pipe line to the Mediterranean and Europe, and no doubt Jordan wanted its share. They all worked and conspired to destroy Syria.

The oil ISIS stole was shipped via mobile tanker/trucks by Erdogan's son to Iraq in exchange for arms. It was sold as Iraqi oil to thirty countries which was illegal and they should have been sanctioned, but they weren't. The US didn't want to cut off ISIS's funds... nor did they bomb ISIS. They spent millions of dollars bombing the desert so as to fool the American people, until Russia entered the fray.

When Assad was losing and needed help, Hezbollah came into Syria. Israel supported Al Nusra/Al Queda in exchange for protecting the Golan Heights from Hezbollah. So there we have it. All these nations including the US, France, and Britain were helping the same terrorists they are now fighting in Iraq.... and they are killing scores of civilians in the process.

 

In Mexico the "Institutional Revolutionary Party" won every "election" for seven decades (they controlled everything, no other parties could successfully field a candidate), it was euphemistically described as the "institutionalized dictatorship". After every election there would be dancing in the streets, fireworks, the municipal band would play popular songs in the main square, parades, great fun (but not democracy at all).

 

Have never been but my educated guess is most of the population wishes for less dying, more medical care and food and a safe environment for their kids. And if Assad brings that now then he'd be popular for a time. They have to be war weary and ready for an end. So polls mean virtually nothing given the current environment of Syria.

Why would you even argue for a poll in the middle of a disaster like that? War is hell on earth.

 

We have found common ground!

 

Haha. Nobody is going to be dropping nukes.
Never again.
The US and Israel will win. The question of victory regarding any military activity is laughable.
I live in Metro Atlanta, about 30 minutes from the CDC. What biological weaponry we have developed probably exceeds the greatest of imaginations.

 

The poll is broken down in regions controlled by the government and regions which were controlled by the rebels and other terrorists. You can look at the poll yourself.

But just to take "Iran's influence" (page 5 of the poll), the numbers who found Iran's influence as favorable (combining the 'completely positive' with the 'somewhat positive) were as follows:

Government held areas: 66%,
Opposition held areas: 18%
ISIS held areas: 24%
Kurdish YPG areas: 27%

http://www.orb-international.com/perorabch/resources/syriadata.pdf

It is highly unlikely that anyone would get killed for responding negatively regarding Iran's influence in government held territory in Syria! There are even occasionally some government officials (and some media organs in government areas) in Syria who aren't all that supportive or thrilled with Iran and say so publicly. But the reverse isn't true: Iran, being portrayed as the enemy in the opposition and ISIS held areas, isn't a country you can openly profess fondness for in those areas and if the identity of those responding weren't anonymous, you wouldn't even get the 20-25% favorable ratings Iran gets in those areas.

 

You are not a native speaker, and you look like a guy from Eastern Europe. Sorry dude...

 

Then I'm glad the mystery over who's who got finally unveiled...

 

Wait wait wait... You guys saved the Soviets' butts in WWII ???



Now ain't that some sweet WASPish PoV... Without the Soviets Europe would be the 3rd Reich as we speak. You guys were but a diversion. The real fighting was in the East.

 

And what about the resulting destability?

I don't believe this "Assad as the second coming of Hitler" thing that makes the rounds: I tend to believe it is part of a processus by which all form of secularism is suppressed in the ME for the sake of zionist and Arabic peninsula interests, to be frank.

And that could eventually lead us to the next World War.

 

I am sorry to burst your bubble but the US (in conjunction with Saud, Qatar and others) has been arming Al Qaeda/Al Nusra and the other Islamist Jihadists that formed ISIS since the insurgency started in 2011.

 

Ask him who Prescott Bush was...

 

Lol, whatever that means, you sure you not in your parents basement?

 

Wayamin... 30 minutes from CDC and living in Metro ATL? Where do you live at? College Park in south Fulton?

 

He bankrolled uncle Adolf, goodski, and was doing business with too, but hey US really didn't have an axe to grind with the Krauts, it was the Muscovites who were the real threat! You're a funny Turk, why do they worship the moon? You never answered my question when I asked way back?

 

That means you lie Mr Arveladze... Did you think I'd not recognize that Tbilisi face? lol...

 

Who's worshiping the moon Mr Archil? Tell me...

 

I lie, you right, I am ukranian teenager, just like this Ninian account seems to claim, my Gray's are just a "diversion", why don't you post a real pic of yourself and we can see who you really are, what no balls?

 

Well you claim you're Turk? Why they worship moon?

 

Resulting from what? From an autonomous Kurdish zone or democracy in Syria?

Secularism in the Middle East isn't suppressed, it's imposed. The Turkish, Egyptian, and Syrian militaries are practically anti-Islamist suppression forces.

This kind of instability will continue in the Middle East until the people of the region get a form of government they can respect.

Islam is absolutely central to Arab culture. Arab nationalism was an aberration caused by the accession of Western-educated elites.

No it won't. Take a more careful look at both Russian and American behavior. The Russians knew beforehand about an American interception of the Syrian plane, and didn't act. The Russians got warning about an American missile strike on a base in which they had troops stationed, and ensured the safety of their own troops, caring little about the Syrians.

Both the Russians and the Americans are willing to abandon their allies in Syria to avoid a war between them.

And why should we assume that hostilities and war are synonymous? I think we're entering a period in which the means and ends of war are both limited. The Russians invaded Ukraine, but they did it with unmarked troops so as to retain plausible deniability. They couldn't risk all-out war, so they settled for hostilities. Same with the Americans in Syria. We're not at war with Assad, but note that every purposeful American action against Syrian or Iranian forces has been anytime those forces have been nearing Kurdish or American forces in the region. We don't want war with Syria, we want a foot in the door at the peace table via the Kurds. Essentially, we have it.

The next phase is for Americans and Iranians to grapple over eastern Syria as ISIS continues to implode. So far, the Americans have had the most success against ISIS in the east, which will give us more leverage. That's why Iranian activity in the region is stepping up considerably.

 

This is true but the real fighting in the east was supported by real supply lines from the west.

We saved Moscow. Russia would have lost without us. There would be no Russia. They would all have been thrown into ovens, but for the west.

And the Russian army that turned the tide, came from the far east. After the Jap redeployed away from it, to fight the rest of us.

You think Russia stood alone? It did not. Not at any time.
British tanks saved Moscow from Hitler.
British tanks won the day at Kursk.

Things you will never hear a Russian say "Thank you".
Why? Because they are a people without honour. Not to be trusted.

While it 100% true and accurate to say that the combined efforts of Russia, Britain and America saved Russia from Germany, it is not true or accurate to say that the combined efforts of Russia America and Britain saved Britain from Germany and it is not true or accurate to say that the combined efforts of Russia Britain and America saved America from Germany.

That you will not recognise the truth of this, makes you dishonourable.

 

You're right, the Soviets were necessary curb the Nazis. They weren't sufficient. Huge numbers of arms entered Russia through Iran and the Caucuses. American arms were vital both in the air-sea war the British were fighting and the land war the Soviets were fighting.

But the American invasion of Europe was necessary for the following reason: What would have happened following the war if the Soviets had the only army left on the continent? Both France and Italy had very powerful communist parties, it would've been rather easy for Germany, France, and Italy to have shared the fate of Hungary, Poland, and Romania.

It's worth noting that the British never really wanted to invade the northern plains, they just wanted to secure the Mediterranean. They wanted to save their Empire. The Americans had bigger fish to fry.

 

Archil; we don't do that stuff. They were Siberian Turks in north east Russia. We have TENGRI = Tanri = Goktanri (Sky God). Yakutis used golden eagle as their national and spiritual animal, we use Bozkurt (grey wolf). Actually I believe Yakutis and Native Americans are the same people. Bering Straight may have been the bridge for them to cross over and migrate America. Nothing is a proven fact about this but still that's what I believe.

 

I would reply you speak from the state of detached from reality cluelessness. The intellectual inability, a mental cripple, to grasp a reality not at all that hard to grasp. A victim of propaganda, without tools to extract oneself.

I of course agree with several retired intel men, of principle and honor as well as Dr. Paul Craig Roberts who has a notable and unquestioned resume, far beyond your or my pay grade.



Sure the link is to RT but only because MSM blacks out Roberts, for facts and truth must be kept hidden from people like yourself, perhaps because some minds cannot handle the truth. So, your insult is returned, except you pulled yours from your arse while mine is an astute observation of cluelessness present in closed minds fabricated by not so clever propaganda. Which leads to a pure silly knee jerk reaction from yourself, which requires no thought, no analysis. But propagandized brains, lack critical thinking skills, which is why propaganda is so effective on many americans.