Russian Collusion & AG Barr Cover Up

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Russian Collusion?

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  1. Yes

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  2. No, you are out of your minds

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  1. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    After all of that, it was still three intelligence agencies who determined that it was the Russians. The other agencies simply signed on the dotted line.

    Here's a nice, safe, leftist-friendly source for you. They say it was four agencies. I'm not counting DNI, but won't argue the point.

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...elligence-organizations-or-four-either-way-r/
     
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    Is this really the best you can do?? Failure to avoid all the salient facts I've presented to back up my argument does not a good post make. Unless you wanna come up with some overused dribble that the rest of my post wasn't worth answering.
    The other intelligence agency's including the DNI were convinced of the facts after reviewing the data. Telling me not to argue with one of your purely bogus points is the best laugh I've ever had.
     
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    All the agencies AGREED with the findings
     
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    If you are referring to the attack by a hostile foreign power upon American's democratic process to hurt Clinton and help Trump, that has been confirmed by the FBI, NSA, CIA, and Republican-run Senate Committee on Intelligence. Only hardcore ideologues beset by paranoid conspiracy crap are still in denial.

    I'm sorry. I tried watching it, but ideological entertainers perform for ideologues. I don't find it entertaining, and am not inclined to subject myself to it for that length of time. (I have the same reaction to barber shop quartets.)

    If there is some message that you enjoy and would like to relate, please do so.
     
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    If you want to re-litigate settled arguments, you are free to do so. The 17 intelligence agencies thing has been proven to be a fraud. I'm out.

    The collusion hoax is a dead parrot.

    All that's left is to prosecute the perpetrators.
     
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    That's what I said. The rest signed off on it.
     
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    No, the reviewed the operations, the findings, and conclusions, then they AGREED.
     
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    Oh your leaving for the second time. Better move quick. I'm not re-litigating anything. It's already been proven as fact.

    Repetitive Crap.

    How can we when Trump and members of his gangsta campaign keep obstructing justice.

    https://slate.com/technology/2019/0...port-cybersecurity-russia-disinformation.html
    "Barr’s summary highlights that Mueller found “two main Russian efforts to influence the 2016 election.” The first attempt to influence the 2016 election, according to Barr, “involved attempts by a Russian organization, the Internet Research Agency (IRA), to conduct disinformation and social media operations in the United States designed to sow social discord, eventually with the aim of interfering with the election.” It was this line of action that led to the indictments of 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies for committing federal crimes while seeking to interfere in the United States political system in “information warfare against the United States on Intelligence report on the social media tactics used by the IRA in its attempts to influence U.S. political discourse."
     
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    How did they go about doing that?
     
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    No Natty, but i do not blame Trump.

    Want to know who I do blame? The then sitting president of the USA. You call him Barack Obama. Barack was informed of this very early yet told America that Trump was full of crap by saying our election could be meddled in. How dare him to defend the meddling then pretend he attacked it.

    Strassel is a very respected journalist and has done a lot of investigations. She knows the Mueller report cleared Trump. As a supporter of this nations president, you know it too. Mueller told you so. I believed he is your gold standard.
     
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    Trump has no interests in that operation. Naturally Trump planned to defeat Hillary but that is no crime. We call that an election.

    Would you blame Obama since he was then the president for what Russia did?
     
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    Hey partner. So did they when they told Bush they had proof of WMD in Iraq.
     
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    It was Trump who said he loves WikiLeaks. What operation are you talking about? Who in there right mind said that defeating by itself is a Crime. Did you just discover the definition of an election. You post is terribly disjointed.
     
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    Wikileaks is Australian. Do you love anything Australian?

    I am accustomed to Democrats losing track that they should follow rules to deal with posts and leave out attacks on posters who posted.
     
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    This is the same old ignorant crap that Trump thumpers roll out ad nauseum It's really dumb!. Iraq has nothing to do with the Russian interference.. .Donald Rumsfeld head of the Defense Department was a cohort of Dick Cheney who convinced the CIA to come up with anything that would frighten the American people. Rumsfeld's Defense Department also came up with manufactured evidence The evidence was weak and phony but blown out of proportion to convince the American people we needed to go to war with Iraq. And it came from the executive branch. ..
     
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    jdjdjddjjd

     
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    Trump said he loved WikiLeaks and could care less where they came from. Duh!! Wikileaks stole American secrets and released them to thethe.. world
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    US President Donald Trump speaks at the CIA headquarters on January 21, 2017 in Langley, Virginia ( Olivier Doulier - Pool/Getty Images )

    WikiLeaks CIA files: The 6 biggest spying secrets revealed by the release of 'Vault 7'

    Julian Assange has claimed the documents are the biggest intelligence release ever



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    WikiLeaks has released a huge set of files that it calls "Year Zero" and which mark the biggest exposure of CIA spying secrets ever.


    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...ear-zero-julian-assange-secrets-a7616826.html

     
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    Promise Hero, I see by your screaming how you are now wearing your mad mask.

    I frankly do not care if Trump likes Wikileaks or not. Wikileaks stole nothing.
    Trump more than likely was as pleased at the dirt on Hillary as much as dirt on Trump pleases you.

    Look how pissed off you got over Wikileaks. The Australian owner of Wikileaks seems he got his fill of Hillary Clinton too.

    If you are mad at Australia, then be mad at Assange.
     
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    So long as you believe the BS above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ you are quite incorrigible.

    I did not allege Iraq is connected to Russia. You won't accept that Wikileaks is connected to Australia either.

    The CIA was correct that Saddam HAS (in 2003) WMD. General Sada came to America and proved it as a spokesman for Saddam.

    Tenet and Clinton too were correct to say Saddam HAS WMD. Democrats who supported Bush as most all of them did, were also correct. They informed Bush for crying out loud. The Democrats even sent in inspectors. If they thought Saddam had none, why send in inspectors? Saddam put the chocks to Bush. Saddam was told by Bush his path to not having Iraq invaded. Saddam refused. He paid the price of being hanged by his own people.

    Saddam's secrets Saddam had WMD page 13.jpg Note for the record what you read by an Iraqi officer who confessed.
     
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    Please provide your link to your source where you were informed that Obama "told America that Trump was full of crap by saying our election could be meddled in." I am unable to find any such quote.

    It is amusing to see Cry Baby Trump hysterically denying Putin's perversion of the election and blaming Obama for it.

    If you wish to respect the ideological entertainer, that is your choice. She must be telling you what you want to hear.

    If you wish to pretend that Mueller cleared Trump, that is what you will do.

    I prefer to deal with reality.


     
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    . Lol you told me you were gone after your post to me. Well so much for the truth.

    Only 8,000 pages of our secrets is all. Per the CIA – they include a host of hacking secrets that could embarrass intelligence agencies and the US government, as well as undermining spying efforts across the world.Your posts reveal a casual care free ignorance.
    You don't have the brainpower to speak for me. Trump probably didn't know what Wikileaks did to the U.S even though most politicians and agents on the Executive level would know.

    Anybody would be (pissed off) except those who are ignorant about who WikiLeaks is and what it did to us.

    This statement makes no sense.
     
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    No, you're like hey, "Russia interfered in our election" and then :(:(:(. So f'ing what? It didn't change one vote, it didn't change the outcome. It only matters to you because your heart is so broken, it hurts so bad that Crooked Hillary lost. You just can't get over it. You can't accept it. So here you are looking for someone to blame. So you do it again. Look, here, here's you blaming Russia for Crooked Hillary losing AGAIN!


    :roflol:


    It was a CNN poll, wasn't it? False statements? False statements? Please tell me I'm wrong. Proved to me I'm wrong! Say, "Russian hacking didn't cause Crooked Hillary to lose!" Say it loud and clear, "Russian hacking didn't cause Crooked Hillary to lose!"

    The Democrat Party has a history of supporting slavery, racism, the KKK, discrimination, segregation and all the evils that go with their long history of white supremacy. And guess what? They still are the party of white supremacy. They still think blacks and minorities need them. Blacks and minorities have to vote for them because the Democrats will take care of them because Democrats think that blacks and minorities are too inferior, too stupid to fend for themselves.
    I believe Putin over Brennan, Clapper and Comey, and all ther treasonous bastards in the Obama administration who spied on Donald Trump, who tried to frame Donald Trump, and who are engaged in an ongoing coup d'état to overthrow the government and the President of the United States.

    Whooped de do da! Go get 'em Mueller! Good luck chasing those *******s down.

    Trump cares about AMERICA FIRST.

    Democrats only care about power and illegal aliens.

    :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
     
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    This is an ignorant statement the kind that riddles all your posts.

    I have no idea how you brought Australia into this. There is nothing I posted that resembles your assertion of what I said. Another reckless and haphazard statement

    Those inspectors found exactly nothing. It was all fake evidence. Here's what phony Rumsfeld said about WMD "It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat". But WMD were never found in those places or anywhere Cheney and Rumsfeld deliberately did not care about accuracy they drummed up false or weak evidence to frightened the American people into backing a war.

    Personelly I don't know who this "one" officer is or what his credentials are. Did he present any physical evidence? Probably not.. You think that blowing up the print and bolding it makes it the Truth

    Now let's get back to those inspectors you were mentioning. One was Bush's hand picked inspector Charles Duelfer.
    "In fact, the long-awaited report, authored by Charles Duelfer, who advises the director of central intelligence on Iraqi weapons, says Iraq's WMD program was essentially destroyed in 1991 and Saddam ended Iraq's nuclear program after the 1991 Gulf War.
    The Iraq Survey Group report, released Wednesday, is 1,200 to 1,500 pages long.
    The massive report does say, however, that Iraq worked hard to cheat on United Nations-imposed sanctions and retain the capability to resume production of weapons of mass destruction at some time in the future.

    "[Saddam] wanted to end sanctions while preserving the capability to reconstitute his weapons of mass destruction when sanctions were lifted," a summary of the report says."

    Speaking on the campaign trail in Pennsylvania, Bush maintained Wednesday that the war was the right thing to do and that Iraq stood out as a place where terrorists might get weapons of mass destruction.

    "There was a risk, a real risk, that Saddam Hussein would pass weapons or materials or information to terrorist networks, and in the world after September the 11th, that was a risk we could not afford to take," Bush said.

    But Sen. Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, seized on the report as political ammunition against the Bush administration.

    "Despite the efforts to focus on Saddam's desires and intentions, the bottom line is Iraq did not have either weapon stockpiles or active production capabilities at the time of the war," Rockefeller said in a press release.

    "The report does further document Saddam's attempts to deceive the world and get out from under the sanctions, but the fact remains, the sanctions combined with inspections were working and Saddam was restrained."

     
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    Funny you use FOX when the mood strikes you and you offer an opinion. While i do not mind opinions, you keep rejecting a highly accomplished and respected national reporter who did her job very well. Not that she did a poor job, but out of partisan loyalty to say Hillary and Obama, without a how do you do to her, without watching the entire compelling video, where she proves her remarks, she cites the Mueller report and backs up her own research, you don't like her so you call her an entertainer. i was not as entertained by your entertainer as you clearly are.

    Mueller cleared all Americans. Not just Trump, all Americans. Even cleared Obama. Obama is also an American.

    What is good about my source is she spent years studying this. I have seen her on many TV programs. The American media respects her. The news industry respects her. Who is this party you respect on FOX suddenly. Frankly her name is unknown to me. So why do you believe her?

    Oh as informed as you allege you are, i figured as an Obama follower, you heard him tell Trump how nuts he was that the election could be meddled with.

    For you, here is your proof.

     

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