Russian investigation

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When the investigation is concluded will you accept the findings?

  1. No. Trumps is guilty and I won't believe anything else.

  2. Yes. Trumps is innocent and I will nto accept anything else.

  3. Yes I will accept the findings no matter what they are.

  4. No. I have dne my own investigation and know the truth.

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Good question. It could be any number of things but right now that is still part of the investigation so it would be speculation on my part if I were to hazard a guess.

    What we do know is that Senator Graham called it a criminal investigation after his meeting with the deputy AG and that the Special Counselor has the necessary powers to conduct such an investigation.
     
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    freddy62 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Being president and not being a Clinton, Obama or Bush I think.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump is clean.
     
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    freddy62 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh yes Graham & insane McCain cheering on the democrats, one push - same master, hoping to fish out a crime to prosecute.
     
  5. jgoins

    jgoins Well-Known Member

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    I used to like Senator Graham because he looked like Audie Murphy but lately he doesn't seem to have the integrity of Audie so I don't really care for him much now.
     
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    jgoins Well-Known Member

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    Well he is human and as a human his past affections can guide his bias. I never thought we needed a special prosecutor because their job would be to find someone to pin a crime on and not to determine if a crime was committed.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The FBI was doing that job but once Trump fired Comey the appointment of a Special Counsel and the revelation that it has become a criminal investigation into a "person of interest close to the president" means that the FBI had already found something illegal. That might even be why Trump fired Comey because he was too close to revealing his findings. Note that Comey has a track record of speaking out publicly whereas the Special Counsel's report does not have to be made public. This could all be part of the attempted coverup that we are observing now.
     
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    Haha
     
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    The investigation will be interesting.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Yes, because "technically" Cheney was "clean" since Scooter Libby took the fall for him instead. Same with Ollie North taking the fall for St Reagan.

    Trump's long and sordid history of dealings with criminals means that only the gullible will consider him to be "clean".
     
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    Firing Comey does not end the investigation. If it did, that would be note worthy. It would then have significant meaning. But since that isn't the way the system works, it has no meaning in regards to the FBI investigation.

    Of course if we get revelations this Tuesday that Kim.Com has irrefutable evidence that Seth Rich was the source for Wilkileaks and not Russia, then the Russian ruse gets revealed for nothing more than lies, created for political reasons, and as a means to question the outcome of an election. Or, more democrat dirty tricks. Yet it is also obvious that this ruse goes beyond just political dirty tricks and involves particular people in intel, and the existence of an Intel/MSM Complex, being used to try to take a president down that is not a part of the Oligarchy. If you have watched this operation being run on trump, you could not help but notice that contrary voices that questions this Russian ruse, get blacked out in MSM. MSM went into blackout immediately once Amb. Craig Murray revealed that he knew the insider in DC who leaked to wilkileaks, and he isn't Russian. Assange has even told the world Seth Rich was his source, and now we have someone, Kim.Com who claims he has the evidence Rich was the leaker, insinuating that he was involved in some way. If this is true, one wonders how the Intel/MSM Complex will deal with it. Yet if Kim has the evidence, even if MSM blacks it out, it will not just go away. And this will reveal that there was a concerted effort to take trump down, using lies, conjecture, and non stop negative reporting, slinging accusations to poison the public, a typical CIA operation, generally run on foreign leaders, not our own. This would be the story of the century, given the usurping of a constitutional republic is involved, and outright treason. And yet several retired CIA men have said as much for months now, but MSM blacks them out. The control of information, an attempt.

    So, we may see this Russian ruse, this operation being run on the president, crumble here shortly. But the implications of this shows that the Princeton Study was dead on in their conclusion. The Republic no longer exists, and we have a small group of elites who are controlling a gov't by and for the People. Only their self interests are represented in DC, and if you elect a president who is not of this corruption, the deep state will take him down. With aid from the opposing party, for political gain, and even aid from the GOP, for the president is a threat to their partiscipation in the destruction of this Republic. One would have to call the Princeton Study tin foil hat theory in order to argue against the points I have made. Yet most people have no clue what the Princeton Study was and its conclusions for MSM either blacked it out, or just refused to cover it, and its implications. If we are an Oligarchy, then what you are seeing in regards to taking down trump makes perfectly good sense, and it is coherent with reality. The Intel/MSM Complex revealed itself, finally, out of a desperation to take trump down, for he is a threat to the corruption and treason of the status quo. Open borders, economic globalization to benefit the elites, and feeding the military industrial complex by perpetual war for perpetual peace. A cold war with Russia is worth trillions to those elites, and the Russian ruse is a part of the move to get another cold war started. But the opportunists may have screwed up. We may see this Russian ruse, the accusations of collusion blow up like that mother of all bombs trump set off a few weeks ago. For if Rich was the source and not Russia, then there was nothing for trump's campaign to collude with Russia about. Which also explains why with all of these intel leaks not one shred of evidence was found to be leaked, as evidence of collusion. The collusion may have involved Rich and Kim, and Amb. Murray. And Russia had nothing to do with it. So, no collusion.
     
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    trump is sleaze, personified. I've never seen anyone so terrified of the truth.
     
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    Really? Who? So what? "A person of interest close to the president" is not President Trump, is it?
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Comey was no more an investigator with the FBI than Trump as commander in chief is a Navy Seal.
     
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    Who seems most terrified of the truth are some of the Democrat partisans on this forum.
     
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    Surely nobody, however stupid they might be, would be influenced by what they'd read on sites like Twitter and bloody Facebook?
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He's trangender, isn't he? I mean the way he swung that bat at his cellphone was a girl's swing if I ever saw one. Looks and sounds very feminine in general.
     
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    I wonder if Mueller will do a Comey on Trump?

    To go in front of the cameras to announce:

    1. There is no case that could be prosecuted against Trump BUT

    2. Really I'm here just to trash Trump like Comey just wanted to trash Clinton a couple weeks before the election just for the hell of it.
     
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    Yeah even though Trump timing on firing Comey was odd and very out of place I have to agree that Democrat's seem highly terrified of the MSM being wrong on this Russia thing.

    The worst part is I don't even think it's because they want Trump gone but to lash out at Russia while being able to reclaim the credibility of the MSM. Something that took a hard beating during and after the election getting local polling off by so much and for injecting to much partisan BS into there run story's.

    I sometimes wonder though if the media hired Trump to run for president just so they have easy hate story's to run for the next 4 years to keep ratings high among there main reader base.
     
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    it is entirely 'disputed.'

    If you Google Mueller you find he is to investigate allegations of Russia attempting to influence the election. He was NOT given the assignment to investigate President Trump. That's a lie every time any Democrat or anyone else makes that false claim.

    There is NO investigation of President Trump.

    There is an investigation of Russia. So what? We've been "investigating Russia" for at least over 100 years. Have tens of thousands of people in numerous government agencies who their entire professional life have been "investigating Russia."
     
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    If dick Cheney cared about America he would invite the Orange Doosh on a friendly little hunting trip...
     
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    Libby erred by testifying his information came from a reporter. He got bent over and screwed. Cheney was not involved.
     
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    Agreed on all counts and his kin are no better. Apparently it is Kushner who is leading the charge to discredit Mueller. What does he have to hide?
     
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    You would be surprised how gullible people can be.

    Just look at all of those who have been duped by Trump.
     
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    :roflol:
     
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