Russian state propaganda advocates invading &capturing Suwalki Gap....3 days for entire op.

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    Speaking of Russia attacking Europe:

    Putin Pal Drops Menacing Hint: a ‘Cleansing’ Is Coming for Europe
    Shannon Vavra
    Tue, July 5, 2022 at 1:42 PM

    Lukashenko mentioned that efforts to fight Nazis from World War II, or what Russia calls the “Great Patriotic War,” are not over yet—echoing erroneous Russian claims that they are waging war in Ukraine in order to “denazify” or fight Nazis in Ukraine.

    It is “a war to destroy the Slavic ethnos, cultures and entire nations. Today we often say that this war is not over yet,” Lukashenko said. “It is not over yet because not everyone who was involved in the monstrous facts of that war… has been punished. That war is not over yet because once again, as at the frontline, we are defending our historical memory.”

    His plans for a “cleansing” in Europe coincide with Lukashenko’s claims that Ukraine is escalating tensions with Belarus; Lukashenko claimed Sunday that Ukrainian forces fired missiles at Belarus, which he says the Belarusian military successfully shot down.

    ... https://news.yahoo.com/putin-pal-drops-menacing-hint-184251433.html

    Belarussia's puppet leader wants to take Belarussia to war against Ukraine, at least. What a shitbag.
     
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    Yes...the clown has a point....it would probably take 3 days ....or less ...to completely destroy what's left of Mafiosi military.
     
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    They sure wouldn't last much longer in Ukraine, assuming NATO would opt to go in there.
     
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    Luka-$hit-ko blows it out his a$$....Mafiosi has been raiding what's left of Belarus weapons stockpiles....for Dwarfstans war of attrition in Ukraine.....bodies of dead orcs are being buried and cremated at a rate of 500+ a day....some are heavily frozen so they don't smell....many of them are dead Buryats and Kalmyks....of whom were shot by Kadyrovtsi who were fighting with over stolen toilets and washing machines.

    Luka needs to watch his back ....real good....since Belarus is smack against Nato Poland with 350K NATO standard troops with Abrams.....and thousands of US troops with F35s,B1,F22....and a Seal Team with Luka as their bulls eye.
     
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    Yes, a regime change would result very rapidly from Luka attempting any attack on NATO territory, and probably even if he just allows Russia to use Belarussia as a staging point for doing so.
     
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    Maybe they know each other?....who knows?:)
     
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    Come on, that is some A grade comedy. Probably not as funny for the people who will die before these clowns are done, but its not like they or their supporters care about any of that.
     
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    And this is the same army that hasn't been able to conquer Ukraine after 5 months of effort, having been reduced to WW1 artillery and infantry tactics due to an inability to fight a prolonged 21st century war. And now they're going to take on NATO, as ill prepared for war as that organization may be? With what? Cavalry charges and muskets?
     
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    BTW, if anyone wants to see carnage watch what a Polish army with NATO air cover does to Russian or (hah!) Belarusian forces. The Poles still want payback for the partition, let alone everything that has happened since. Given half a chance they will gut any Russian force that crosses the border.
     
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    And all without a single Polish soldier crossing into Russian territory. Oh, the Poles may blow the **** out of Russian positions immediately inside Russia if pressed but they won't actually 'invade' any Russian territory. Thereby depriving Putin of the right to claim that the survival of the Russian State is at issue.
     
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    Yep, though they might cross into Belarussian territory to support the inevitable uprising there if Luka is dumb enough to let himself get involved in yet another of Putin's wars.

    They might not cross into Russian territory, but I'd hate to be living in Kaliningrad if Putin tries something this done. Best case scenario is a total blockade. Worst case is they get flattened.

    BTW, Putin will claim the 'survival of the Russian state is at stake' no matter what happens and his troll army will lap it up.
     
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    Did I have the power? I'd wouldn't let the Poles enter Belarus. Encourage and perhaps arm them (with some light weapons) yes! (The Ukraine situation in miniature if your want.) But enter no. You don't want to give that bastard Putin so much as one iota of a reason to invade Belarus, assuming that is he actually has the military capacity to do so in the absence of a Russian national mobilization which, lets face it at the moment is unlikely in the extreme. (Putin want's to say in office.).

    But even if they do invade Lukashenko is hanging on by a thread as it is. All such an invasion would achieve (assuming a popular evolution was underway with or without Polish help) would be to tie down tens of thousands of Russian troops in an unpopular and costly occupation. Hardly a war winning strategy.
     
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    Have you seen a Russian nuclear exercise scenario? Warsaw is gone within a minute or so. Imagine that sh@t. Poor Poles wouldn't have enough time to say goodbye to the loves one. Be careful what you call for.
     
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    Come one, quit those stupid lines. It doesn't reflect good on you. The Russians never wanted to conquer the whole Ukraine. They deployed only 180,000 troops. Where is your common sense?
     
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    180,000 combat troops were effectively the majority of Russia's front line contract soldiers. Putin himslef was the one who declared that the invasion of Ukraine was NOT a war but rather a 'special military operation'. Remember those words do you?

    That aside, agreed. Russia could have deployed far more troops to Ukraine. But! Only at the cost of a general mobilization which would involve committing conscript soldiers en masse to the battle. Something Putin wasn't willing to do because that would entail sending the sons of Moscow and Saint Petersburg etc to war. (He's perfectly happy to mind you to do exactly that with any poor Russia males living east of the Urals mind you. Just not anyone whose family actually matters politically.)

    Remember Russia had less than 500,000 contract soldiers in 2021. And a large majority of those were assigned to non-front line positions i.e. logistics. command, communication and engineering jobs etc. In other words all of which roles it takes time and money to master. (Which is exactly where you would want the bulk of your professional soldiers to be placed BTW).

    So in the event of a real war Russia's strategic doctrine was (and is) based on the idea of mass mobilization of former conscripts to back fill most front line combat rolls (bar special forces). All of which means far less than half of those 500,000 men were actually available for front-line combat roles at the start of the invasion. The situation has only gotten worse since then.

    As a result it's also a matter of record that during the initial invasion of Ukraine Russian BTG's were grossly under manned in terms of front line combat troops (infantry). Some platoons were going into battle with less than half the number of infantry they were supposed to have, and according to the best intelligence sources I have located the situation hasn't improved much since then.

    And this was exactly because in a national general mobilization that kind of role was meant to be back filled by recalled Russian reservists i.e. precisely because the soldiers who weren't showing up were according to Putin 'not actually fighting in a war'.
     
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    Still hoping for a genocide of anyone who stands up to Russia I see. Consistent at least.
     

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