Russian statement on what it says was a major Ukrainian attack

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    Battles still ongoing.
    *Ukraine is said to be attacking/entering Novodonetske near Ugledar with rumor that Leopard tanks are involved. This is where there is most rumor of success for Ukraine although they are only said to enter part of the settlement.

    *Ukrainian forces launched attacks in the region of Mala Tokmachka and south of Velika Novoselovka. Rumor of Russia repelling attack.

    *Rumor of a gain for Ukraine in a northern Bakhmut settlement. Still no visual confirmation to attest for this.

    *Rumor of Russian gains in Marinka.

     
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    Only claimed video of assault so far I have seen.
     
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    Difficult to take anything seriously. It’s a long front and I don’t think Ukraine will go the route of spreading out its attacks in a serious bid to break Russias lines.

    Rather, spreading out probing attacks to manipulate Russian response and commit reserves to areas they don’t actually plan on seriously attacking is a more prudent approach, and when the “real” attack does come, everyone will know it.

    The Allies for example went to a lot of trouble to convince Hitler the real attack would not be Normandy. Did it make DDay a cakewalk? Nope, quite bloody still. But when it came, everyone knew it. The naval and air version of a blitzkrieg.

    …well, everyone except Hitler knew it. He was asleep. LOL
     
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    In the meantime ...500 RVC rebels embed themselves in/around Shebekino RF....I'm hearing half the residents have fled....numerous damage everywhere, casualties are numerous....exact #s unknown ATM.....RuZZian military unable to dislodge the RVC....have killed their own civilians with airstrikes in attempts to repel....PMC Pig-rozhin asking to be transferred to Belgorod area to attempt to quell incursions??....I totally agree....he can turn Belgorod into another "Bakhmut"??....this time in RF territory?

    Wait...depends also....I also hear RuZZian military ambushed Wagner on their "retreat" outta Bakhmut.....and Wankers claiming they captured a RuZZki Lt.Col in this cluster phuck.

    What a $hitshow.....this whole "SMO" or "war" has taken on a life form onto itself.
     
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    We also have to remember that information is part of this war. Both sides are going to be engaged in subterfuge, so knowing what is happening in real time is going to be very difficult if not impossible. Both sides will cover up their own failures and overstate their successes. As before, I'll be waiting for substantive, documented changes and battles. Neither side can deny it when a large chunk of territory changes hands or a local government building is captured. They can only tell their own stories about how and why it happened, but either way it's a clear and undeniable change in the state of affairs.
     
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    Russian sources are confirming they have been pushed out of Novodonetske southern Donetsk. Pretty much the main news so far. Still rumors they Ukraine are using German leopards in Novodonetske and also using French AMX-10's on the front.
     
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    Novodonetke retaken by Russia along with areas around the Bahkmut reservoir per videos circulating twitter, probing attacks by Ukraine seems to be over for now amid the chaos of the damn breach.
     
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    Pro-Ukrainian Russian fighters launch multiple incursions into Russia from Ukraine


    This one actually starts out with a little story about political opposition within Russia before moving on the matter of Russian volunteer forces in Belgorod. When it comes to that part, the spokesman says they're in control over "approximately a dozen small villages" along the border and are besieging Shebekino, a city roughly the size of Bakhmut. He says their intention is to build a new government there.
     
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    Heavy fighting in Rabotino area and Russian loss of Lobkovoe. Also continued rumors of Ukrainian advancement on the flanks of Bahkmut. Still little breakthrough for Ukraine. Interesting to see the Russian KA-52 attack helicopters being much more effective in defense than offensive operations. As Ukraine pushes farther away from their air defense the attack copters can sit back at a distance and fire anti tank missiles safely. These attack helicopter assets have been mostly useless with modern air defense in play when on the offensive.

    Ukraine is also still fighting north of the areas of main fortification. It will be interesting to see how they handle the situation if they push south of the grey zone.

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    And he based that book on Stalinist Russia. It's Putin's instruction manual.
     
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    The comedian's forces are doing so well they had to blow the dam! :nod:
     
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    Seeing this as confirmed by Russian and Ukrainian sources as the first visual evidence of a destroyed Leopard 2. Seems like the Ukrainians are running into the same problems as the Russians were, these open areas in the south seems like a tough place for an offensive as they have no cover, are heavily mined and fortified.

     
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    Ukie nazis had to blow the dam to put out the fires of burning Leopard 2s. Zee panzers burn wellz
     
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    This vid isn't the least bit convincing .
     
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    Yep....and rumors of 25K dead drowned orcs.....and many more to the rear running thru minefields they dug.:laughing:
     
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    Which is why we shouldn't have poured over $100B into it. Can't wait for it to get completely out of control, and it puts my family in danger. The Ukrainian cheerleaders should realize that if that danger materializes, I will consider the death cult that blindly got us into war as my enemy, not Putin.
     
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    What did Putin have to do with America’s longest war in Afghanistan?
     
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    Lol. You can't tell a combine from a Leopard tank?
     
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    What does that have to do with this thread?
     
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    Look familiar? Straight from the original nazis

    dumb :democrat:
     
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    Your comment on Post #11. You conveniently forgot about America's longest war in Afghanistan. Orwell's book could very well describe America. How long has Putin been at war in Ukraine? A year and a half?
     
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    Well...no one else's fault but Putlers....tell him.
     
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    High clearance John Deere sprayer also....LOL.
     
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    Best possible use of Bill's tax dollars. Yours too.
     

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