Russian Tanks Cross Border Into Ukraine

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is different! Imagine something happening to the US, and Texas decided to join Mexico. Later on a fascist government took over Mexico and said that all the Americans and English speaking people must give up their language and heritage or leave Texas. Then what?

    Should the American people give up their language and culture to stay in their homeland, or should Texas secede and declare their independence?

    That's funny! :roflol: I read that the map makers are making Russia appear larger than it is and it's upsetting them. Anyway if it's any consolation to the other nations, most of it is covered in ice, so who wants it.
     
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    Easy fixed. The Russians just need to send out an aircraft carrier, or two or three. That should
    send the Americans fleeing. The Americans have no more right to to the Black Sea than they
    have to the South China Sea. And later, maybe the Pacific.
     
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    I believe moving warships through the Bosporus or Dardanelles straights would be a violation of the Montreux treaty of 1936,

    Of course I don't know how this treaty is affected by NATO, as Romania is a NATO member. Turkey is also in a fair amount of financial stress, I can see Erdogan accepting payment for passage.

     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you should add his Davos 2021 speech to that list. I read it yesterday. He said everything our western leaders should have said. While Macron ridiculously criticised capitalism in his speech. We all know what is responsible for our ridiculous levels of inequality and it is not capitalism, but a socialist corrupt Federal reserve pyramid scheme.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There has been talk of changing the Treaty, and Putin told Erdogan not to, since it's needed for stability. According to the Treaty, the American ships can go into the Black Sea if the accumulative tonnage doesn't exceed a certain amount, and they can only stay a certain amount of days. So when one leave, the other enters. Also they have to notify the Turks 14 days in advance when a ship is to enter.

    Other than that, Erdogan wants to build a canal that will bypass the Bosporus, and does not have to comply with the Montreaux Treaty.

    Erdogan is a sharp cookie and he doesn't mess around with Putin. He knows just how far he can go, and how to play the different parties. Should he fall, and there's a possibility of that because of Turkey's economic problems, then the fireworks will start.
     
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    Is there anything glorious leader ....hasnt said?

    Like when he'll get out of DPR...and Crimea?

    Or when he'll take the "vaccine" in public?....LOL.
     
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    The Russians don't need an aircraft carrier, one Khibiny system attached to the wing of a Russian jet, panicked the crew of the American destroyer SS Donald Cook. When the ship docked at Romania, part of the crew refused to go back on board.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right, so the Banderites can do to them what they did to the Poles?
     
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    Why do you care?
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, you're missing that Putin has a brain, something that is sorely needed in Banderite Ukraine.

    So tell me Zoomie, does their problems stem from the soil or drugs, because reasoning is certainly not their forte'.


    (My apologies to William Shakespeare)

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    To reason or not to reason
    that is the question.

    How can'st one reason
    where knowledge is not,
    when reasoning itself
    requires a lot
    - Jeannette
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then you don't care if genocide is committed on others? Would you feel the same if it was Jews?
     
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    point taken.
     
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    I don't think you ought to get off so easy. You constantly bash Russians and support their killing by any means but once you figure out that the Banderites are the Ukrainian neo nazis (that are now running the country thanks to Obama's 2014 coup) then you revert to 'point taken'.

    Read this...these are the people you support:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lviv_pogroms_(1941)

    Study on the link above. Learn about Lviv, POLAND, which is now part of the fake country of Ukraine. Learn about the genocide. It continues to this day in the Donbass.

    Here's another, current:

    https://www.rferl.org/a/banderite-r...i-collaborators-to-make-a-point/29764110.html

    I feel sad for the sheep that gobble up the fake news bullshit like it was candy and are so lazy they can't lift a finger to verify what they are fed.
     
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    Yes, the Germans and Japanese in WWII just KNEW the Americans couldn't fight -
    the Americans were spoiled, had little experience with adversity and no fighting
    experience.
    And funnily enough, the Russians and British thought the Japanese couldn't fight
    either - they were just slant-eyed, dimunitive and short sighted Asians.

    The point about the carrier is this - Russia doesn't have a navy worth speaking of.
    And since 1900 you could say they never did.
     
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    Have you heard of the two greatest genocides of the 20th Century?
    There was the Stalin Genocide and the Mao genocide. Between them
    they killed about 100,000,000 people, and destroyed the lives of many
    multiples of this.
    To this day any discussion of the Cold War with the Left revolves around
    'Capitalism' or Kissinger, or the Rosenberg's, or the Gold Standard or
    the Jews or Wall Street. It's as if the Left is deflecting from the greatest
    acts of inhumanity since records begun - right under their noses and in
    full expression of their ideology.
     
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    Why do you keep belaboring ONE incident? You can't win a war with one offs.
     
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    Can't be any ****ing worse than the Tatars getting kidnapped/tortured, Ukranian language schools closed, no warm showers, water running out, etc, on the peninsula now.....:roflol:
     
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    Not to mention but that story has never been independently confirmed. You only have Russian claims to support it. And Russians are notorious for exaggerating or simply lying about their military prowess.
     
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    Omigosh....Lviv pogroms....yes horrible.

    Holodomor was even worse....but little said about that.

    Lviv,Poland?....yes about as fake as Kaliningrad RF.

    The biggest fake was the former SU....and now the Resource Federation.

    Banderites, Nazis,Nachtigall,Galizien....you trolls are so predictable. It burns your asses knowing that Ukraine is lost.....:roflol:
     
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    Yes...theres a few US warships headed for Black Sea shortly....should be in the waters til May sometime......the Russkis should try jamming those electronics.....but they may be in for a surprise....they may experience fits of depression in seeing what a REAL navy looks like and lose all enthusiasm to challenge them....:)).
     
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    Putknka has a brain?.....yes....forgot to say somewhere.

    Reasoning is not a Banderites forte?

    Well, they built that Kuznetsow ACC....that sitting crooked somewhere....minus that drydock..that the Swedes built? Its at the bottom now isn't it?
     
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    AND the mass starvation of millions under the Bolsheviks.
    Hunger is normal in hard left countries, but Stalin, Leinin
    and Mao took it to new levels.
    Oh... two million dead in North Korea too.
     
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    Hey-yo, I'm Mr. Russkie Rhymes
    Best Moskal poet of all times
    But I'm even better at shootin'
    When I serve for brother Pootin

    I don't shoot only bullets like my fellow Russkie dogs
    I most like to murder people using cups of Novichoks
    Killing Ukrainian civilians is best fun Russkies can have
    And at home with brother Pootin we drink a lot of aftershave

    :D
     
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    Fighting Marxism is a good thing, but Adolph did a lot more. He committed genocide on almost all Eastern European peoples as well as on Jews and Gypsies. That was absolutely unacceptable. :(
     
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    All most people today think they "know" about Hitler is Allied 'demonizing the enemy' war propaganda that become 'history written by the Allied victors'... including Stalin's marxists.

    What I know is this: Stalin destroyed churches and mass-murdered Christians. Russians who had escaped and found sanctuary in Germany supported Hitler's liberation of Russia from the evil antichrist marxists. Not only did Russians live in Hitler's Third Reich, Hitler helped them build a Russian Orthodox church in Berlin [it still stands and ironically now belongs to Putin's Moscow Patriarch!] Metropolitan Anastasy, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church in exile [exiled in Serbia until Stalin's horrific red army invaded Serbia then the Holy Synod moved to the Third Reich] praised what he called Hitler's "courageous German sword" that was in the process of liberating Russian lands from antichrist church-destroying mass-murdering Stalin. But alas it was not to be. US president FDR sent billions of dollars in military aid and equipment [lend-lease] to evil antichrist marxist Stalin to keep him in power.

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