Scientists Accidentally Discovered Quark Fusion, Could It Be the Future of Energy?

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  1. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Um the lady in the video says that scientists already dismiss this since the amount of energy it would take to create this new energy would be more than it would produce.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oops, yes you're right.

    I noticed that too but I thought maybe she was mistaken because it's being paraded around like a new energy source.
     
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    Also, she states that this new energy has such a short life span that it couldn't be used for a bomb.

    Well that also means it won't last long enough to produce any stored power.

    Basically it flashes and is gone.

    If you could tap that for power you could also use it to power a weapon.
     
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    You mean like how it takes more energy to produce wind turbines and solar panels than we will see in return? I say we go for it and give them $500 mil grants every year.

    But honestly though, I hope they keep experimenting with this and see if they can come up with a more viable means of harnessing the energy. Maybe the net energy will change sides and the balance to more on the out going than the incoming.
     
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    Please show evidence that it takes more energy to produce wind turbins and solar panels than we see in return? I'd like numbers and testing protocols, etc.
     
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    No, it's nothing like your fantasy. Who told you such a crazy thing, and why did you fall for it?

    Quark fusion is never going to be economically practical, just as hydrogen fusion will never be economically practical. The ITER experimental fusion facility in France, has a price tag of around $40 billion. And it's not even a prototype, just an experimental facility, one that isn't planning to start an actual fusion reaction until 2035. Any fusion power plants? Add another 10 years.

    Meanwhile, over those 30 years, wind and solar and battery storage will keep getting cheaper. Why would anyone pick incredibly expensive fusion over cheap renewables? Even if hydrogen fusion can be made to work, the free market will laugh at it. Fusion will have niche applications like spacecraft drives, but won't be used for normal electricity generation.
     
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    The future is probably using the energy of our star, bar any huge discovery. And we will be good with solar until the sun burps again and the best case scenerio for humanity is a dark age of hundreds if not thousands of years. There seems to be growing evidence that what ended the last ice age was the sun's solar ejections. Stars may not be as long term stable as we believe. And given our high tech society, this kind of eruption is like nothing seen since the one that might have occurred close to 10, 000 BC. It would implode civilizations around the world, mass loss of life with survivors being underground bunkers or caves. Nuclear reactors would melt down around the world, creating something much worse than the last eruption that "may" have happened back then, if these scientists are right in their conjecture. Along with earthquakes and volcanic events, both having a relationship with our star and its state.
     
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    Too bad that cold fusion turn out to be non-existence a few decades ago.

    Now is so call quark fusion for real or just a fantasy similar to cold fusion?

    As I do keep an eye out for such announcements as quark fusion would be and I am only hearing of it on this thread my nonsense detector is going off big time.
     
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    At some point in the future nuclear fusion will certainly be much cheaper and more efficient than wind and solar power.
     
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    From my experience, 99.9% of such ``discoveries" are fake news. Photovoltaics are the future of energy.
     
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    I doubt. Solar Power will lead to the new Energy Revolution and Industrial Revolution.
     
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    Cold Fusion exists at pressures unattainable on Earth. It is studied by Astrophysics.
     
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    It already has. While the rest of the world was sleeping, solar based corporations are suddenly employing more people then the petroleum industry. If that’s not a revolution of sorts, what is ?
     
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    It should take about 20 years for Solar Power to generate as much energy as oil, but it will happen.
     
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    There are many discoveries that existed no where else on earth that science has emulated. Nuclear fusion, the phone, generating electricity for mass consumption and the lowly internal combustion engine were dissed and not found in nature and were thought to be imposssible; just before they become common place.
     
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    As far as central power distribution is concerned, that sounds very reasonable and I completely agree given the technology we have now. . What we are not accounting for, is that solar power allows everyone who participates the ability to “sell” power to the grid.

    Often what happens with predictions, is that a scientific discovery becomes a big game changer in Less then a decade. If solar generation and distribution technology takes a quantum leap because of a new discover that allows homes to become independent of central power distribution and becomes the power source itself, the change can come as fast as as the technology can be economically distributed. The cell phone and digital technology was a huge game changer and every year the predictions shortened with each new discovery in this area.

    A cheap lightweight battery with greater storage capacity could make anything but solar power obsolete in a decade. That it will happen is a given. We no longer depend upon whale oil with the discovery of oil deposits; it happened very quickly. The Beverly hillbilly’s played a big role.
     
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    That's because of factories. You need far fewer people to drill, ship and refine petroleum than to mine, ship and manufacture solar panels. That is not a good thing by the way.
     
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    When they get the organic solar panels into general use and stop using those toxic conventional ones, solar will be able to power residential homes in the lower latitudes and subsidize power for homes in higher latitudes. You will still need nuclear to provide base power because solar will NEVER be able to provide enough power for commercial use and all the power used by homes past the Tropics. Most of the worlds population isn't located around the equator its located above the Tropic of Cancer where you get significantly less sunlight per year.
     
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