Sen. Hirono: Democrats Have a Hard Time "Connecting" With People Because Of "How Smart We Are"

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  1. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    WTF are you talking about? You're comparing the ACA to White Supremacists? Even for shock value that doesn't work because it doesn't make sense.
     
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    I'm comparing the ACA to being forced to fund a white supremacist website, because the ACA forced us all to be involuntary consumers, in complete violation of the spirit of liberty in this country. Trump and the Republicans hadn't passed anything NEAR that.
     
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    That's true, they haven't. In fact, they haven't passed anything at all and they hate the ACA as much as you (or say they do) and did nothing. What they did do is give a tax cut to themselves and gave the regular guy a pittance and they ( I mean you) bought it.
     
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    I'd like much broader tax cuts, and I'd love a true reform of our health care system. But the 'Russian Investigation' paralyzed the House, and it sure as hell paralyzed the Senate. Meanwhile, PROTECT MUELLER! Our unelected God.

    Sad times, indeed but not for the ones people think. An unelected official purports to have the fate of the nation in his hands, instead of 2020 as should be normal.
     
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    Really, the Mueller investigation has "paralyzed" both the House and Senate? By "paralyzed" do you mean like the upteen investigations of Clinton that proved nothing. It did give Trump the presidency which has now paralyzed the country by showing the nation what true criminals look like.
     
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    Nothing slips past you!
     
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    The governments of Houston and NC organized and ran the recovery efforts, not the federal government.

    The same scenario played out in Houston that played out in PR.

    The difference is, Houston and NC did their jobs for their citizens. PR did not.

    Do we have pictures of cargo loads of supplies in dumpters and millions of gallons of water sitting on tarmacs in Houston and NC?

    No, we don't.

    Educate yourself on what has been going on trying to restore power to PR. A task exacerbated by the fact that their country is a poorly run, corrupt sinkhole.
     
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    I'm good with my education. Are you saying FEMA didn't go to Texas or NC? Were the areas hit in the states mountainous jungle like PR?
    For I know Fox News put the cargo there.
     
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    Are you saying FEMA doesn't dump millions of dollars into PR every single year and weren't involved in PR?

    The cargo was delivered to ports via boats. Do we have ATV boats I'm not familiar with?
     
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    So what you are clearly saying is you don't grasp the situation at all.
     
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    Because of how smart they are or because of how arrogant they are??
     
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    I'm saying I presented an entire list of facts, which you were forced to concede were facts, that has wrecked any narrative you have attempted.

    If supplies had not gotten to Houston residents, it would have been the fault of the local and state governments.

    If supplies didn't get to PR residents, then it is clear where the blame lies, since we know who had the responsibility.
     
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    No, that is your interpretation of what you think are facts and not based in reality.
     
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    Mmm no. You already admitted they were true, because they are all facts.

    You're welcome to go back to my list of facts and try to disprove any of them.

    You can't though. That's what makes them facts.
     
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    ^ Because random internet guy says so and cant be bothered to post any info ^^^
    easier just to say "orange man bad" and stuff...


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    Storm PR Warehouse, Find Politicians Have Been Hoarding Relief Items. By V Saxena ... Except that if it weren’t for the Trump administration’s raid last week, the kids at the Academia Bautista de Puerto Nuevo would likely still be without power — and again, no thanks to Cruz, the New Progressive Party and every other corrupt ...
     
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    These posts are talking about 2 different things. Vman is talking about essential items like food and medicine and Fatback is talking about electricity. The problems in the posts are months apart.
    The fact is that vmans "fact" is that items were delivered and left to rot because of PR people didn't "step up". The fact is they were left there after the National Guard left and the roads were still unpassable. Why? BECAUSE IT'S A TROPICAL JUNGLE WITH MOUNTAINS. Texas and NC are flat lands with better infrastructure.
     
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    No, it's because the "government" of PR did not do their jobs.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/puerto-rico-donated-supplies-expired-david-begnaud/

    the problems in Puerto Rico are so systemic and have been around for so long that even improvements that are being made are only pecking away at the surface, he said.

    You know why Texas and NC have better infrastructure? They have governments that do their jobs.

    Here is a topographical map of PR

    http://en-us.topographic-map.com/places/Puerto-Rico-797932/

    As you can see, the vast majority of the population of PR lives at an elevation of 37 to 200 feet above sea level, all along the coasts of PR. Their road system, and indeed how PR is laid out very closely resembles Japan. Ever hear of Japan not being able to get supplies to areas hit by disaster? No? You know why? Their government does their jobs.

    Your narrative of them clinging to the sides of mountains is pure bunk.

    All you are doing is making excuses for the failures of the PR government, clinging desperately to your "orange man bad" narrative.

    The corruption and incompetence of the PR government is vast, well-documented, and indisputable.
     
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    True. Shipping things by sea is more complicated and slower.
     
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    Well, again, you're warped view is wrong. Texas and NC have governments that do their jobs? Really, they aren't corrupt like PR? Show me a state where the people don't think the state government is not corrupt and I'll show a state that has an official state mascot of a unicorn. Yes, the both have better infrastructure as do all the 48 continuous states. They have more money.
    I never said people were "clinging to the sides of mountains" so in that you are correct that it is bunk.
    The "orange man" IS bad
    The PR and Japan road systems are laid out the same? That's an interesting trivia tidbit. Where did you get that? I'm guessing you reached behind you and yanked.
    Japan DID have problems getting supplies to areas. So did Texas and NC.
     
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    I can show you places that got supplies to people, like Texas and NC, and places that didn't, like PR.

    The "orange man" is creating fiscal metrics the US hasn't seen in decades, your feelings notwithstanding.

    No, I looked at a map of PR, and lived in Japan for many years. Mountainous center of the country with the populated areas and roads running around it in a circle. You could look at a map if you'd like to understand instead of reaching behind you and yanking.

    Texas and NC didn't have millions of gallons of undelivered water and food, unlike PR.

    You can complain all you want. Facts stand. The government of PR was responsible to plan for emergencies and they failed miserably.

    PR has always been a mess.
     
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    It's a Spanish Crown thing.

    Any former colony of Spain are basket cases today.

    Mexico has always been a basket case and will always be a basket case.

    The city of Los Angeles has become a basket case today but is that because of Democrat liberal policies or that Mexican immigrants brought their problems and politics with them ?
     
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