SEN. TOM COTTON: war with Iran would be just ‘two strikes’

Indeed, as we see extremist rw's here have failed to live up to America's moral standards.

 

Disengenuous pontifications coming from progressive LW nut jobs crack me up. Somewhat mitigating the sadness of progressivisms corrosiveness. I wonder if Bergdahl's replacement at the 101st is a transexual. Might be a good strategy as transexuals aren't likely going to be accepted by the Taliban or ISIS when they defect.

 

"Disingenuous pontifications" defines the extremist right wing. They are such a sad lot.

 

>> << Describes JS. ::

 

How do I know what are lies ? What a nonsensical question.

 

To a large degree the war in Iraq was a costly fiasco but why do you claim we lost?

 

I said we lost the peace, Jet3534. This coming Friday Iraq legislature is going to vote to have all foreign (aimed at America troops) leave the country, so that America cannot use Iraq as an invasion springboard into Iran.

 

So just mess up the Iran, destroy the government and then get ready ... the mess that comes out of it is not your problem ... even if you have the mess verrusacth?
Then I hope very hard that Russia and China are both allying with Iran and assisting it militarily ... as with all countries that are on the US "Black List"!
Such a US does not need the world!

Very nice!

In Iraq you just lost because of total incompetence for the time after the victory over Saddam ...

 

Correct!
And with all their critics and resistance against the Mullahs as far as can do ... they want for sure not end like the Iraqis after Saddam was eleminated from power ... due to American incompetence to handle a country after the military victory.

 

And this fight of the insurgents against the US and the successors of the mullahs will be so blatant that the Taliban and the insurgents in Iraq, on the other hand, were / are a joke in comparison!
And how good the US is in such asymetric wars, that the world knows since Vietnam!

 

A really distorted view on the realities!

First of all, both the USSR (not Russia) and China have only made an invasion into a foreign country ... the USSR in Afghanistan and China in Tibet.
The US, however, much more ... just to name 2: Vietnam and Panama! What was the difference between Afghanistan and Tibet? None ... pure national interests over the sovereignty of the attacked countries, or which Bastard one actually supports with it!

In general, the problem with you Americans is again that you only see the evil with others, but what you got so well, everything was OK and nothing was evil.
If I see the defenses for deployment in Vietnam, it's just ridiculous and hypocritical ... just like Iran is.
Yes ... the mullahs are bastards, no question ... but if you want to attack them for that and give the Iranian people an Iraqi experience, I wonder why you shut your eyes on Saudi Arabia. They do the same and also evil things.
There is currently a stir in a Muslim school in the US, where children learn how to hurricane against Jews, etc. ... only who finances this school and influences the curriculum and the books there? Saudi Arabia!

 

The USSR invaded Germany, Czechoslovakia and the rest of eastern Europe. Estonia, latvia, Lithuania , Finland, Poland ,Iran .


Bin Laden is dead.. you are welcome. That's all you need to say. If that seems brutish to you then brutishness is the right way to be.

 

Was there maybe World War 2 ongoing? Mmmh ... so it will be fair which countries were invaded by the US by attacking NAZI Germany?

 

We lost in Iraq? Guess I missed that. Lol
A bit early for revisionist history on Iraq don't you think?

 

Vietnam. Maybe you need an education.

Vietnam split in half. When the French left.
The French were horrible to the Vietnamese.
The North became communist the people did notvwantvto be communist fled south and those that did went north. Ho Chi Minh and his administration kilked tens of thousands with his land reforms. Then the russisns and chinese stsrted supplying the north with weapons so that they could invade the south and forcibly unite the two countries.

Yes Diem was a corrupt leader also. Yes his family members were atrocious. No worse however than the north.
So the north trained the Viet Cong znd sent them south to assassinate people who wouldn't turn to communism. To prepare for invasion by thr north. The people of the south did not want communist rule. That's why they fled south. The Viet Cong murdered. Threatened and stole from the South Vietnamese who just wanted to be left alone. Young South Vietnamese men were forced to join the VC or they were murdered.
They were forced to hide VC and their weapons. These were VC tactics. Their normal operating methods.

The American atrocities were isolated incidents. Unless you count the atrocities commited by the Johnson administration against American soldiers by not allowing them to really fight the war.

Anyway if you want to condemn America for how it acted in Vietnam. You had better condemn the VC and the North Vietnamese 20 fold.

 

Yep ... obviously you missed something, because the war to get a stabelized democratic country after Saddam, you lost! You made every group in this country to be hostile agains you due to your incompetence!
You lost also Vietnam war or does South Vietnam still exist?

And who is in power in Iraq now? Not those who you want to have, because the government is Iran friendly and hates you!

 

Stop the falsehoods. The USSR drove German and their allies out of Eastern Europe. Thanks to Obama for Bin Laden's death.

The American people will not support a war against Iran.

 

We left when the war was over.. USSR didn't.
Also i didn't even mention the countries they invaded just before the war... which is a very long list and we did not mandade what the people of thoes countries did.

 

Obama was able to get Bin laden because of what Bush did to get things in place.

Yes the USSR drove Germany out of eastern Europe then ruled over those countries for another 40 years.

 

The goal in the Iraq war was to remove Saddam from power and that was accomplished very easily. The nation building which followed was a mistake and I was against it from the start. Go in fast and hard, kill the right people break the right things and then leave saying whoever takes over this shithole country be warned. Act like Saddam and we will be back for your fat ass.

 

That's why Iraq is allied with Iran? We won? That's why we Iraq will order America troops out of the country on Friday so that we can't use Iraq to invade Iran? We won?

 

The Iraq war was to remove Saddam from power after he refused to abide by the treaty he signed after his attempted takeover of Kuwait. The war was won easily and was basically a training exercise for our military. After that the diplomats, politicians and bureaucrats lost the peace.

 

You don't destroy a country and walk away, Josephwalker, so do not think that is what will happen with Iran.

I am not worried about an invasion of Iran, because the GOP leadership and most of its followers are gutless.

The Republican conservatives are not the warriors their great grandparents and grand parents were, not even their own wishy washy parents who got beat down by the left in the 1960s. The GOP will have to gird up its collective and metaphysical loins and do battle with the Dems, who are not even the slightest bit frightened of the Republican. You are right, Fenwick, the Dems are incensed, and they most certainly will unite behind a candidate for the election season.

 

This is not reality.

If you feel that it is a reality, then please do, describe the so-called peace that currently exists ---which we risk losing?