Serious question to those who use "truther" as a slur...

Two fallacies and a lie.

No you can't as the AE911T membership doesn't actually contain that many architects and engineers (see my avatar for the true percentage of the community, and Gage just labels everyone who signs on as an engineer or an architect). Anyway, you are employing fallacious techniques again, and this is a distraction from the actual evidence, which I might add, all the cranks you quote lack.

 

There are plenty of opposing views there as well. Thanks for posting.

Sorry, but I am going with the professionals in these fields, men within our government, men within our military and intelligence communities, let alone those who were part of the 9/11 commission... way before you, Ron, John Gross and his ilk.

I would advice anyone still confused to do the same. These are highly reputable and knowledgeable people.

 

how could u possibly know?

you met them?

 

Cough, Total BS fail. -10

Post your proof.

 

where's your evidence that the concrete "melted"?

 

I wish the question he replied to was shown.

Actually since NORAD was established to defend against exterior attacks, it was not then operating against domestic airplanes.

Those posting whom are pilots, who understand transponders, would more than likely explain how they work, why they do what they do and what it means to shut off the transponder.

Clearly the terrorists understood it. Why not? They are trained to fly in the USA.

Folks, have any of you ever been inside the ATC control centers?

I mean, why don't you educate yourself prior to bleating that no airplane hit the pentagon?

 

It was posted earlier in the middle of your confusion. You thanked me for it and then moved along like it was nothing to worry about.

You two have Gross and a few others in his circle.

Then there are:

Architect and Engineer Signatories : 2,554

The architects and engineers below have signed the Petition demanding a new investigation into the destruction of all 3 World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9/11.

LMFAO!

I tried to post the list and the board said: "The text that you have entered is too long (200857 characters). Please shorten it to 28000 characters long."

The list of the archetects and engineers that Blues claimed did not exist is here...
http://www.ae911truth.org/signatures/ae.html

 

Jets never scrambled until they got called by FAA. FAA really lost the airplanes. It was not their fault. The blame goes to the trained pilots flying all 4 of the airplanes. Each became a pilot according to FAA.

When Norad got the call, thinking it came from over the Atlantic, they followed protocol and assembled 60 nautical miles out to sea as they had been trained to do.

 

I am part of an association with a higher number than that ... and that is just a South Florida association ... we have the occasional conventions and still discuss 9/11 after a the presentations and on to a few drinks ... we laugh at truthers ...

 

no u didn't.

you have posted ZERO evidence that the concrete in that photo "melted".

and the guy you quoted never said "melted concrete"

 

This Bowman?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Bowman#Activism

When a person who can't accept eye witness reports as well as forensics done on bodies tells me no airplane hit the pentagon, one has to ask why said person says that?

 

At that time NORAD viewed only threats from overseas or basically outside the US. After their SOP changed.

 

The 50 grew to 10,000 in one day?

 

You can state what you like, but you're still defending a fallacious argument.

Oystien's research on Metabunk and ISF has proved thus. Gage has been collecting signatures on petitions for years. These signatures are added to the database thus misrepresenting the qualifications of the membership.

Search the following for the threads as I can't be bothered doing it for you. It has been done and all the cries of 'BS' or whatever, are just stupid as you have no idea.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=64&order=desc

Then try metabunk:

https://www.metabunk.org/9-11.f28/

I know you won't look, so whatever. I know it to be true and I know your objections are of no substance, and I don't chase around after Jihadis.

 

Yes it was the crank Erik Lawyer and one of his cronies. The firefighters laughed them off the forum.

I'm sure you will, as you possess the necessary confirmation bias and have a preponderance for fallacious thinking.

And so are the other 99.06% of the professional community (architects and engineers) who do not support truther fantasies.

Get back to me with something not so boring as your continual argument from authority. Replying to fallacies is really quite dull, and truthers include them in every post. You all need to do Logic 101, and very quickly. LOLOL

Then again, if you were gifted in logic, you wouldn't be truthers.

 

Moving on we need to hear from MIT engineer, Jeff King:

[video=youtube;z8W-t57xnZg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8W-t57xnZg[/video]

 

I can't believe there is still so much confusion. Look how sure our experts are and ask yourselves how you can be so sure that you can be right and all of them can be wrong. It just doesn't make sense.