Settlements liable to turn Israel into an apartheid state

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Israeli settlements in areas that had Jews before 1949 are certainly legal, and at the very least, morally justified.

    The Jordanians illegally murdered and exiled the Jews of these areas, and they have every right to return.
     
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    Resolution 181 made adequate provision for jewish and arab settlements which already existed on both sides of the synthetic divide.
     
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    yes, and the Arabs murdered hundreds of Jews and exiled more, within those lands they conquered.

    every square inch of land in the West Bank, including east Jerusalem, that was inhabited by Jews before 1949 can and should be inhabited by Jews today.

    Justice says that settlement of Jews in areas of the WB that had Jews before 1949, should not be illegal.
     
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    The Zionists terror gangs murdered and drove out many thousands of arabs and occupied their homeland. Justice will be done when they get it back- as international law requires.
     
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    meanwhile Hamas terrorists are hailed as heroes.
     
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    There are no such animals as ' heroic invaders '. Resistance movements always hold the moral advantage. No matter what Hamas does the Zionists have done far, far worse.
     
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    And that is the critical point of departure when comparing the actions of Hamas with those of the Israeli Offence Force.
     
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    OK...I just got back from the Middle East and I can tell you right now we should ALL just stop giving all sides AID.

    I am extremely HAPPY to be home for Memorial Day as it has special meaning for me and my family and after spending WEEKS....Babysitting a bunch of whining.....HE DID IT! NO HE DID IT!! BUT HE STARTED IT FIRST!! BUT HE DID SOMETHING ELSE FIRST!!! OMG!!!!!

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    I regard people like you as lions led by donkeys. Best wishes to you and your family.
     
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    Ahhh....but you didn't either read the reason I was there or understand.

    I ABSOLUTELY HATE what I did over the last several weeks.

    I owed a friend....BIG!!!

    In return I have been asked by him to do a specific JOB with my Team in Israeli/Palestinian Area and my JOB...which I would have been asked to do but as I am NOT Military as I am..."CIVILIAN"....in the manner the quotes denote.....I do NOT SALUTE ANYONE!!

    And as I have a CONTRACT which allows me to ACCEPT OR REFUSE ANY JOB OFFERED to me even though my hand picked Team are members of the U.S. Military.....and if I did not owe this friend I WOULD HAVE REFUSED THIS JOB!!!!

    BUT....I owed this friend and now ALL DEBTS HAVE BEEN PAID...as what he did for me was HUGE and I agreed to do this exact JOB several times now...and this was THE LAST TIME!!!

    I am not...LED BY ANYONE!!!

    I have my OWN ability to access Intel. I am experienced in the extreme....and the ONLY reason the Military Brass put up with me is THEY HAVE NO CHOICE!!!

    Thank you for your wishes to me and my Family it is MOST appreciated!

    And I wish you and your family the same!

    This...JOB....which was NOT SECRET...so I am NOT violating any OPSEC or causing issues within SOCOM....was a JOB that is was ASKED FOR BY NAME by ALL SIDES INVOLVED....because all sides KNOW I HATE EACH SIDE EQUALLY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY!!!

    And they KNOW...I would NEVER have a FAVORITE SIDE TO HATE....because when it comes to HATE I believe things like DISCRIMINATION OR BIGOTRY should NEVER be allowed to taint something so PURE as true unadulterated HATE!!!

    So...for what seemed like...FOREVER....I BABYSAT ALL SIDES NEGOTIATORS....and prevented them from KILLING EACH OTHER.....as I was in charge of selecting a site...protecting it with my Team and we were tasked with providing security and getting these WHINING BUNCH OF BABY'S....to agree to the protocols, scheduling and
    agenda necessary for much HIGHER PEACE TALKS TO OCCUR.

    In the past I have LOCKED THEM ALL IN A CONFERENCE ROOM UNTIL THEY AGREED WHETHER BOTTLED WATER OR PITCHERS OF WATER WITH GLASSES BE ON THE PEACE TALKS TABLE.....I have HAD MY TEAM SHOOT OUT THE TIRES OF SEVERAL NEGOTIATORS LIMO'S.....I have THREATENED TO HAVE MY SNIPERS EQUIPPED WITH BARRETT .50 CALIBER M82'S KILL EVERY AND ANY NEGOTIATORS SECURITY DETAIL IF THEY SO EVEN MOVED 10 FEET IN THE DIRECTION OF THE BUNKER I HAD THEIR BOSSES LOCKED IN....and a whole lot of other really CRAZY stuff!

    At the time I thought doing crazy things like this would ensure they WOULD NEVER ASK ME AGAIN TO DO THIS JOB I HATE!!! WRONG!!!

    To my surprise and angst....it seems my Team and I are the ONLY GROUP all sides trust NOT to take sides as they realize I am an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY HATER!! LOL!!

    What can a person do?

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    An ethnic war the Arabs started, it would have been the same for Jews have they won - only Jews had no place to retreat to and wait for some army to come fight for them, Jews won and justice was served in 48 and again in 67 and wiil continue to hammer them if they continue to fight.
     
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    Your terrorists will always be regarded as mindless beasts, your fanatics are responsible for the rise of the extreme right in Europe, as long as those beasts exists they supply the blanket Israeli right requires.
     
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    All people's throughout the world are entitled to fight back against their oppressors. This principle applies as equally to the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto as it does to the Palestinian's fighting back against illegal invaders in occupied land.
     
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    So you agree now that the notion of "peace" is foolish ? there can be no peace, possibly some arrangment. more likely one sided moves.

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    Nice but im talking about 1948, 1967 was tainted already, its not a start point.
     
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    Israel as a failed colonial project has tainted the ME.
     
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    NO...PEACE is completely possible...and if these MORONS had put into place a 32 page report and analysis which detailed out a STEP BY STEP plan that the United States and it's Allies along with our Middle Eastern Allies and Russia would and can do....and I WROTE THIS REPORT AND ANALYSIS AND PLAN....we would have a lsting peace in the Middle East and Iran would not DARE cause issues.

    Basically the very MOMENT that all AID is stopped being given to all sides and the moment MY TEAM along with some backup I AND I ALONE CHOOSE....COMPLETELY AND FOREVER DESTROYS ALL EXISTING IRANIAN QUD'S FORCE WEAPONS AND MONEY SUPPLY ROUTES AND WITH THE HELP OF U.S. CYBER COMMAND COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN THE ABILITY FOR SUCH MONEY TRANSFERS TO OCCUR......as in order for this to work not only AID and Weapons from the West must cease but AID and Weapons from the EAST must cease as well and we are PERFECTLY CAPABLE OF DOING THIS!!!!

    At that moment when no side will be given any Monetary AID and no side will have in the case of Israel PRIVATE AMERICAN FOUNDATIONS which donate BILLIONS YEARLY and on the Palestinian, Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and Syria as the way it words is BASHAR ASSAD like his Father Before Him allows Money and Weapons to flow from Iran supplied and transferred by the Iranian Qud's Force and Assad TAKES A CUT of everything destined for the Palestinian's, Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and Shiite Groups in Iraq also send Money and Weapons into Syria to support such groups as well money and weapons that Saudi Arabia does want the U.S. to know about...which we know about....that Saudi Arabia a SUNNI NATION....want's sent to the Palestinian's to show their own people that the Saudi Royal Family is not PAWNS of the United States...is ALSO....UNBELIEVABLY....sent to Syria and Assad an Alawite....Shiite....is taking a LARGER CUT from such money and weapons shipments to Palestinian's and Groups such as Hamas, Fatah and Hezbollah to KILL JEWS!!

    I know so much about this that if you knew even 5% of what the reality is you would get so angry your HEAD WOULD EXPLODE!!!

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    Look....ISRAEL....is not going anywhere.

    Sooner or Later something once again is going to effect the United States Negatively and the American People are going to say....ENOUGH OF THIS $#!T!.....and the United States Military is going to go in and FORCE A PEACE and guy's...let me tell you....I have SEEN some of the various Military Contingency Plans available for choosing if another 9/11 should happen and they make the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan look like a couple of kids shooting Bottle Rockets at each other!!!

    Even the LEAST DESTRUCTIVE PLAN....if put into play....would turn the ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST....INCLUDING ISRAEL....INTO ONE GIANT U.S. MILITARY PROTECTORATE.

    I am NOT overstating this.

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    The major world superpower will not allow it's principal ME proxy to go anywhere so, yes, you are right.
     
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    EXACTLY!!!

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    Well, for the sake of the children I hope you are right, we'll do what we can according to what we know to protect them meanwhile.

    I dont think anyone can stop money from indevidual Arabs or Jews so Hamas and Hizbi will continue to get sponsored.

    Israel def budget is higher than all adject Arab countries together - we defintly need to reduce it,
     
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    They can only blame themselves for butchering each other, in fact they should thank us for uniting them for so long.

    Your words prove my point, your perception is hateful and leaves no place for peace, split Jerusalem with the concept lol , yea right :)
     
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    The so-called "peace process" is, in reality, all process and no peace which is precisely what the Zionist extremists in both the White House and the Knesset want.
     
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    It's hateful to support expansionist illegality.
     
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    You know...even though I am what I am and do what I do....I am by nature a fairly nice guy who NEVER wants to hurt anyone and I ALWAYS try to see good in people and I NEVER make assumptions or discriminate or base my decisions upon some bigotry dominated ideology.....that simply is not me.

    But I swear....SOMETHING....about the people and groups in this region turn a relatively peaceful man by his nature into a READY TO START SHOOTING THE FIRST ONE WHO OPEN'S THEIR MOUTH....MANIAC!!!

    I BLAME THE PEOPLE OVER THERE...for turning me into something I am not and the SAD things is the ONLY way I can get them to do or agree to ANYTHING....is when I THREATEN THEM or act like A RAVING LUNATIC!!!

    It's like they simply don't respond well to patient understanding and logic.

    But if I shoot a few tires out with a .50 Cal. Barrett M82 Sniper Rifle I BECOME THEIR GOD AND HERO FOR THAT DAY!!

    I do not understand this at all....but I DO understand how to use it!!!

    Members of Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah ans Islamic Jihad MAKE CERTAIN....that if they are even within 50 Miles of us in their attempts to either launch a rocket or intel. gather or WHATEVER....THEY WILL CANCEL ANY SUCH OPERATION AND GET AS FAR AWAY FROM US AS POSSIBLE!!!

    Reason?

    They have told me themselves.

    We do not want to do ANYTHING that might be perceived as our Group being Hostile Toward American's...America or ESPECIALLY YOU AND YOUR TEAM!

    A few years ago a splinter group of Islamic Jihad went and did something that even Islamic Jihad thought was GOING WAY TOO FAR...as this Splinter Group caused the injuries of a few....MEN....that are within our sphere or operations.

    Islamic Jihad went on the Internet and Radio and practically BEGGED FORGIVENESS for this act done by a Splinter Group of their Organization and Islamic Jihad completely disavowed this Splinter Group.

    That Splinter Group a few weeks later did some really STUPID AGAIN!!

    Now...I will give you ONE GUESS.

    WHO do you think was the Group and Organization that provided us with the intel. necessary to locate and DESTROY this splinter group???

    AboveAlpha
     
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    WHOA!!!

    Don't talk about things you have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA ABOUT.

    Every time some one equates the White House or the U.S. Leadership....something that has been for so long been a PREDOMINANTLY WHITE CHRISTIAN GROUP FOR SO LONG MADE UP OF WASPS.....and then calls such a group...ZIONIST EXTREMISTS???

    Well...I just have to laugh!!

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