Shall mentally ill people not to be allowed to run for ...?

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Shall mentally ill people not to be allowed to run

  1. Yep, it's great idea

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  2. Nope, it's racist, nazi, bigot

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  3. I dunno

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  1. Ostap Bender

    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Simple question: shall politicians be examined by doctors before they run for president, congress, MPs etc?It looks like any mentally ill folks can entry any political party, than lie and get elected and than force any pervert fantasy to people per law.
    Or am wrong, it is bigot, discriminating, racist and nazi and any insane is allowed to decide about life of millions?

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    ChrisL Well-Known Member

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    Then we would have nobody to run for office! :eek:
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Do we really need a system which allow insane people govern over us?
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No you don't but they'll just pay doctors under the table to say they're mentally stable... it's the crazies with money that does the most damage.
     
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    Great point.

    And, every day, the IMBECILE-in-Chief (Trump) is validating your thesis.
     
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    So...Who examines the doctors? Who decides what's 'crazy?' Look, the truly mentally ill cannot function in society so if that is what you are worried about let your heart not be troubled. Everyone else may be a bit 'crazy' from one degree to another but, if they function well, understand society, obey rules, etc. we say they (we) are 'sane' and I don't think we need doctors examining anyone's 'fitness' for running for office.
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh B.S......Your TDS is showing it's ugly head again....:roflol:
     
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    Yeah like Hillary.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your president Trumps Hillary...
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    Do you have any examples to demonstrate this is a problem that needs addressing (that’s examples of elected politicians who are actually mentally ill, not just those whose policies, words or actions you don’t like)?

    I’m not convinced someone who is actually dangerously mentally ill would be able to get past all of the existing checks and balances to actually implement anything unquestionably dangerous; getting party/public support for a candidacy, actually getting enough votes to win an election, getting support from other politicians to implement policy and getting practical agreement from civil servants and people on the ground to implement them.
     
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    I definitely think a vast majority of all politicians everywhere have some kind of personal disorder. Not all, but most. :p Youth Parties earn subsidies based on how many members they have, so they - of course - welcome anyone. Many kids who have made themselves impossible in the real world therefore join a party to meet likeminded (mentally that is, not politically lol) friends and some of them will make a career and advance to MP or even PM. :p
     
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    So do the "progressives" here in the US! :p
     
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    Well, anyone is able to run for president. You have to be popular and be able to get your views out there in the public in order to win though, so if you are off the walls crazy, then I'm sure most people would realize this.
     
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    Seriously they do. Any misfit, social outcast, criminal, illegal immigrant, people who hold views totally opposite to theirs (as in Muslims from the ME), etc., etc, go join the democrat party. It doesn't matter if you don't understand anything about what is going on or if you can even legally vote or not, as long as you vote democrat! Lol!
     
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    If the dems had a mentally ill candidate running, and anyone was to point that out, then they would just call us all liars and bigots and racists and deplorables and what nots. :D
     
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    You must be mentally ill to want to seek elected office.
     
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    Lol! This is true! Who would want to be the POTUS anyways? What a terrible job! They couldn't pay me enough to deal with that kind of stress and torment!
     
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    Our founders were brilliant men. There is not one example of their caliber amongst our modern day elected representatives in Washington. Not one "Thomas Jefferson" in the bunch. Our founders knew that would be the case, and that is why they designed our system of government to be able to be run successfully by a random gaggle of roving imbeciles and retards with checks and balances in place such that they could not bring down the country by their idiocy. Our founders were brilliant men. Our modern representatives... not so much.
     
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    Yes they were. The Constitution is definitely brilliant. They pondered and gave things a LOT of thought and were not so caught up in silly political ideology, but were more focused on the rights of the people to be truly free from the shackles of big government and tyranny, monarchy and dictatorships, which is especially exceptional considering the times.
     
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    It's difficult if not impossible to get an unbiased determination of who is mentally fit or not. I've long suggested that all those running for office must be required to pass a rigorous constitutional test (including contents, source, reasons, applications, etc.) where 90% should be the passing grade in order to qualify as a candidate. After all, potential professional employees are often required to pass certain exams to determine competency. In this case a person running for office not only seeks employment in civil service but must also take the Oath of Office to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. What good is that if that person is not intimately familiar with the Constitution? It's unlikely (but not definitive) that a person who can score 90% or better on such a test is mentally unfit. However, once a candidate qualifies, at the end of the day it's the voters who make the final determination. I seriously doubt Trump would have qualified if he had to take such a test.
     
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    Yes, and the question you have to ask yourself is WHY did people vote for him over Hillary Clinton? I will tell you why. Because we don't TRUST our government or our politicians anymore. This is a BIG problem. At least Trump says what he is thinking and is not shady about it, unlike MOST politicians. What you see is what you get. At least he has that kind of unintended "honesty" going for him. He is not "smooth enough" to keep it to himself or to keep it a secret.
     
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    Well, not only that, they were focused on a point well beyond the next election. They made legislation that would serve us well for hundreds of years beyond their own deaths. Today, legislation is made with a finger to the political wind, and only votes at the next upcoming election time drive them. The founders were not career politicians... They wanted to do an excellent job for their new country, and then get back to their farms and families and lives.

    This is why we need term limits, and the end of the "career politician". Because then people who gain elected office would be driven to make timeless legislation that will become part of their legacy, rather than shifting with the political wind of the day.
     
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    I agree to a certain extent. The Constitution does have its flaws and Trojan Horses though. One of its biggest flaws is that there is no mechanism in the Constitution to enforce it on Government. Another is that there is no way to prevent Congress and the Executive from enacting unconstitutional legislation. The founders missed those big time. There is an Amendment process that could fix that but unfortunately, it relies on politicians to make that correction, so that will never happen.
     
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    For me it's why I would have to choose between the lesser of 2 evils in the first place. I would much rather have the choice of the better of 2 or more brilliant candidates.
     
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    There is so MUCH political brainwashing that goes on too. People just cannot seem to think for themselves and assess each situation on the pros and cons, but instead let their emotions and/or their political ideologies take over. I think we are all guilty of this from time to time (letting our emotions run the show), but some people do nothing but. It gets tiresome after a while. Like, for instance, liberals who claim they stand up for our rights (and especially free speech), yet they have the AUDACITY to not allow certain people (like republicans or anyone who they don't agree with) speak at their universities, or they will disrupt them while they are speaking so that they cannot be heard and cannot share THEIR message. This is just one example of many of how our children are being brainwashed.
     
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