Should Canada declare war?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Canell, Jan 10, 2020.

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Shoud Canada declare war on Iran?

  1. Yes!

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  2. No, but NATO should

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  3. No, Ukraine should

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  4. War, are you serious? For a bunch of people?

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  5. Canadians declaring war, what? Hahaha!

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  6. No, war is too serious. Just let it be.

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  7. Other

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  8. Can't make up my mind

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  1. Canell

    Canell Well-Known Member

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    So, the Iranians shot down a plane with:

    - 11 Ukrainians (6 crew + 2 passengers)
    - 82 Iranians
    - 63 Canadians
    - 10 Swedish
    - 4 Afghan
    - 3 German
    - 3 British

    on board. Providing the investigation proves Iran shot it down with a missile, should Canada declare war on Iran for the 63 victims? Or someone else?

    What now?
     
  2. Capt Nice

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    Canada's problem isn't with Iran. It's with trump. Those of us who don't like Kool-Aid feel that trump bears the most responsibility for the entire incident. Had he not out-and-out lied to wag the dog those people plus the ones that got trampled to death would still be alive. That's a simple fact that can't be twisted.
     
  3. Canell

    Canell Well-Known Member

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    No Americans died in the incident, so what does Trump got to do with it? It was Iran's fault and decision to shoot down a plane with no "Trumpers" inside.
     
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    • Flamebaiting (Rule 3)
    We have diplomatic and economic relation with the USA. We don't have any diplomatic relations with Iran for many years.
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  5. Moriah

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    You took the words right out of my mouth. Thank you!
     
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    hmmm war? no but Iran needs to come clean about the whole thing
     
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    The short answer is no. If, as looks likely evidence turns up proving it was the Iranians (or they just 'man up' & admit it) you still have the question on intent. A deliberate shoot down of a civilian aircraft might repeat might justify some form of military reprisal if not full scale war. But proving it was deliberate would be a hard call. Far more likely it was a mistake and of course other civilian aircraft have been accidentally shot down by other countries (including the US) in the past.

    Doesn't mean the the Iranians should get off scot-free of course. They still have a legal and moral obligation to admit responsibility and pay compensation to the families of all the victims.
     
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  8. Canell

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    Well they've admitted responsibility. Presumably compensation to the victims will follow. It would be hard for them to do otherwise given the US did the same thing after the 1988 incident.
     
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    It was clearly an accident.

    Canada could demand compensation of families and to oversee an upgrade to Iran's IFF systems. But war won't solve anything.
     
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    Solemanie, or however you spell the dirtbags name, was a wanted terrorist. Who was deemed and registered as a terrorist BY OBAMA. Last I knew the US was over in the ME to take out anyone deemed to be a terrorist. Why aren't you cheering the taking out of a terrorist? Why is it that Dems have now twice condemned Trump for taking out a terrorist? They sure loved it when their guy was doing it left and right with drone strikes and they sure as hell didn't care what any other ME country thought about it.
     
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    Trump instigated the whole thing. He bears responsibility for this.
     
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    That you blame Iran for NOTHING is astonishing but not surprising at all.
     
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    ^^ CORRECT. Had not trump tipped over the first domino none of this would have happened. He's responsible for being the cause of the plane being shot down and responsible for the deaths of the Iranian's trampled in Solemani's funeral. The F***ing idiot was trying to do nothing but distract from his impeachment. It's called "Wag the Dog".
     
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    :)
     
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    No, Iran tipped over the first domino when it fired ballistic missiles into a US occupied military base, killing an American contractor and injuring others and when Iran instigated the trashing of an American embassy.
     
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    That seems bizarre. Iran shoots down a passenger jet but... blame America.
     
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    Its the ol' "for the want of a nail the war was lost" argument immortalized by Shakespeare.

    The Iranians screwed up badly and shot down a passenger plane, that should never have been allowed to take off within an hour or two of Iran launching bunch of missiles into Iraq, which they wouldn't have done had trump not assassinated the dude with their own missile strike within Iraq and with each regression one get's "closer" to who should truly bear all the blame, because in the 21st century its always somebody else's fault.
     
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    Your timeline is woefully incomplete.

    What triggered Trump to kill Soleimani? There was no threat from impeachment.

    This is all about Democrats abusing their power to gain advantage in the 2020 election.
     
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    There's still no threat from impeachment.
     
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    So this is just more typical leftism: Third world countries have no agency, they are simply the pawns of the US and Trump. So everything is Trump's fault. It sounds crazy to me, but most leftist prattle does.
     
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    I see you missed my point.
     
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    care to back that up with something approaching fact?
     

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