Should Donald Trump run for the presidency in 2024?

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There's an APP for that. What those on the Left mean is they want to summarily change the Constitution and once that begins they won't stop until it's totally destroyed. That's been the Prog plan since Wilson was elected.

 

If Trump runs and gets the Republican nomination, the Republicans will lose.

If he runs as a third party candidate, the Democrats will win ... big.

In 2016 Independents voted for Trump. In 2020 they voted against him. The way the Independents voted was the way the election went in both cases. And after what happened on January 6th, the Independents will not vote for him in 2024.

If there is any chance of Republicans winning back the presidency in 2024, Trump should just stay quiet and stay out of it.

 

That's quite the insight. Had a chat with Melania lately, have you?

 

I won't be voting for those republicans who don't give a **** about the common folk. I also won't be voting for those democrats who pretend to care about us and then cut down our jobs, sell us out, and have sold their souls to big tech and the woke mob.

 

An den? An what? If Republicans are just the flip side of a uniparty, what difference does it make to elect them? I think most folks on the Left underestimate the blowback that could come from 4 years of Biden/Harris. He has already started gutting the economy and if he continues in that vein there will be a LOT of anger over the fact that Democrats are actually tearing down the economy intentionally. His moves so far cannot be ignored as being beneficial at all to anyone except the Socialist wannabes.

 

I hear what you're saying about a uniparty. The election of Trump was a rebellion against the Republican-Democrat uniparty in D.C.

Dunno. If the two major parties want to play "uniparty", they are asking for eventual rebellion of the rank and file they are supposed to be representing, and we could see more unconventional candidates (like Trump) have a lot of success.

 

Y'know, you sing and dance as well as any man I've seen but just what in HELL are you talking about?

 

Too old and too divisive, he should take a leaf out of GH Bush's book and found a political dynasty.

 

I entirely disagree on your first paragraph. If one reads the Constitution, and the BoR, the structure is such that there is structure to support the individuals, and the expected growth of this country. If it was geared only to the rich, there would have been no need to delegate powers to the States, nor the individuals.

Damn, I would have voted for you on that alone! I joked around at one point about running for POTUS, but figured I would be assassinated before my inauguration because I would have pissed off every special interest group, lobbyists and the Fed Reserve. The time change was one of my main points of my platform.

 

What I mean by 'outsider' is someone who is not steeped in the sewage of DC. It's no matter if they have 'political experience', it's a matter of what they have done with their experience.

Spending years in DC, and having done nothing effectively to the benefit of this country as a whole, does not qualify someone for POTUS.

 

I didn't vote for him in 2016 (voted write in), but did in 2020, but more based on not Biden, plus a bit on the economy.

I highly doubt that I would vote for him again, the last 3 months, regardless if there was cheating or not, was unnecessary. The Democrats have one option, IMO, to retain any semblance of decency, and that is having Biden serve out his term. If they 25th Biden, voluntarily or not, they will be bottom dwelling in the swill of DC, and have proven every single allegation against them.

 

Ol' Joe has barely even begun his "100-day honeymoon", and he's already made some devastatingly BAD choices, including allowing the big 'Roast Trump Festival' to suck all the oxygen out of his attempts to get anything beneficial to the United States actually done besides TALKING.

Consider: Now, as we're about to be engulfed with who-knows-how-many virus 'variants', we have a vaccine effort that is uneven, slow, and just as badly coordinated as it was under mean, old, terrible Donald Trump! Worse, because Biden took over, suddenly all these 'blue' states decided that it's OK to reduce the alert-stages and 'open up' for business again at a much more relaxed levels (due, of course, to that vastly SUPERIOR Democrat presence the country enjoys now....). Every day we read that the 'experts' aren't very sure at all about what works against the virus after all, or in how many manifestations, for how long, on which age-groups, etc., etc. The prevailing 'guidance' we get from 'experts' now, and government talking-heads alike is, "When we DO get vaccine(s) available in your part of the world, just rush out and get jabbed-up with something... we'll try to figure out what the hell we're doing while we make all this up as we go along...."

Consider further: After blowing around about how the Democrats are going to fire up the government 'steam-shovel' to heave hundreds of billions of dollars in MORE welfare money out to us, the 'commoners', all they've really gotten done is to piss their panties and stage that big 'Roast Trump Festival' (which ended up being another 'impeachment' failure for them). Ol' Joe was going to do all these miracles and wonders starting "Day One", but so far he's done nothing but hide in the White House while his 'handlers' and party-goons in Congress amuse themselves with just about anything except helping the American people....

Nancy Pelosi delayed any supplemental aid for the Capitol Police prior to the January 6th event, because the "optics" would look bad, but she's been QUICK to make sure that she keeps the NATIONAL GUARD stationed at the Capitol until sometime this autumn, at least!

My point? We'll see how happy everybody is with ol' Joe's rendition of "Obama 2.0" when it gets to be 2024, complete with wide-open borders, Iran in possession of nuclear weapons, and China threatening to take over everything in the Western Pacific. I wouldn't WANT to see Trump run again -- he'd be way too old by then -- AS OLD AS BIDEN IS NOW!

Ah, this is all nonsense. The whole 'Biden' thing is just a Democrat set-up for Kamala-la-la to run in 2024, and we all know it....

. "Was there ever really a doubt about that in your little 'white boy' mind...?"

 

I thought this thread was about trump running again. Oops.

 

Fine. Ignore the performance factors that directly bear directly on whether or not Biden could win or lose. Trump won't run again.

But IF he did, and IF Joe simply let his administration turn into nothing but a penny-whistle rollout for Kamala-la-la's platform and candidacy, then it is possible that Americans might be so sick of "Obama 2.0" (or worse) that Trump could actually be elected.

No... actually, I don't want that.... Very frankly, I want to see someone better for the United States than Trump, and, a HELL OF A LOT BETTER than either Joe Biden or that hyperliberal Jamaican Voodoo Queen sitting in the White House!

 

As things stand now, independents are fed up with Trump. This showed in 2018 when independents voted for the Democratic congressional candidates 54-42 and in 2020 when they went for Biden 54-41. In other words, Trump might win the GOP nomination, but would lose once again in the general unless he could somehow, regain the independent voter support.

Keep in mind, things change. No one knows what is 4 years ahead, what major unforeseen events will happen, how Biden and the Democratic controlled congress will govern. You have one party control of government today, no one knows if Biden and company will do something, pass something to make independents so angry at them, they might consider voting for Trump again as they did in 2016.

Bill Clinton and the democrats had all the power in 1994, but they made independents very angry at them and lost 54 house seats losing control of the house for the first time in 40 straight years along with control of the senate. Obama and the democrats have all the power in 2010, but once again manage to get independent upset at them and they lost 63 house seats along with control of the House.

Today, Trump doesn't stand a chance of winning in a general election. But in 2024, he might depending on how independents view how Biden and company governed. Whether Biden and company made independents angry or not. Time will tell. Trump running and winning in 2024 is not an impossibility, not probable today, but 4 years hence, who knows?

 

This is the main reason I don't really pay attention to polls. I know some people that will lie to pollsters about their candidate of choice (silliness) so who knows what is around the corner. People speak with their vote as we've seen in this last election. Trump, et al thought he would win and could only lose if the election was rigged. I think he got too lulled by the number of people at his rallies versus Biden's rallies. That's all well and good for the camera but it only matters who is behind you on election day.

 

Polls are but a tool to be used by forecasters and pundits, but they also must pay attention to the fine print, the margin of error and the sampling. Polls are good for seeing trends, but they only tell you in general terms what people are thinking when they're taken.

Usually polls don't mean anything until around 6 months prior to an election. Then again they go up and down on a whim. Trump and his fellows problem is they considered all polls as being fake if they didn't show Trump ahead. They weren't. Then there was the old wives tale of the polls being wrong in 2016, they weren't. the polls had Clinton winning the popular vote by 3.2 points per RCP averages, she won the popular vote by 2.1 points. Considering the margin of error of plus or minus 3 points, they were pretty much right on.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...rump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html

It was the pundits, prognosticators and forecaster who got it wrong, although they had the numbers right in front of them. Now like myself, most of them thought Hillary would win Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin mainly due to those states long history of voting Democratic in presidential elections.

 

Having all the power, the party gets all the blame.
Unless some miracle happens and some bipartisan issues happen.
I always hold out hope, but sadly, for many decades now, partisan politics has been the only thing that matters.

I liked the older days when the fringe of each party were relegated to their corners and the middle worked the issues with compromise.

 

It is only my opinion, but if he were to run again, he will lose again. He's never won the popular vote.
And as another said, it does depend on Indies. Of which I belong. I won't vote for the narcissist. The handling of the pandemic proved to me he can never ever be a good leader. And the president needs to be able to lead a country when a crises hits.

 

I wouidn't even qualify it as an "opinion"...

It is a 1,000,000% CERTAINTY That Donald Trump Will NEVER Again Be the POTUS.

PS--Trump Supporters are Free to Bookmark This Post.

PPS--I would recommend that anybody who disagrees with this CERTAINTY, realizes that any attempt to "Rebut" My Proclamation will only end in a post that won't age well.

Trump Won't Happen in 2024. Period.

 

Nothing in life is certain. Except death.
He may attempt to run again, I don't think he will. But my opinion was, he will lose again if he does.

 

You and me both. 30 years ago both parties respected each other and for the most part would work together whenever possible.Both realized that each party's goal was the same, a secure, free and prosperous America. Compromise and playing the game of give and take was the norm. A straight party line vote rarely if ever occurred. Today, each party views the other as this nation's number one enemy, out to destroy this country. Something happened in the 90's to put this country on the road to its modern era of politics, the polarization, the divisiveness, the mega, ultra high partisanship. Exactly what that was, I don't know. The Hastert rule, maybe. The impeachment of Bill Clinton, perhaps losing the house for the first time in 40 years... But perhaps it was the two major parties finally cleansing themselves of their unwanted wings. The Republicans getting rid of the old Rockefeller liberal Republicans of the Northeast. I doubt few remember when the northeast was solid Republican. The Democrats getting rid of their southern conservatives. The old Solid South. Today, both parties are trying to cleanse themselves of their moderates.

I don't know why or when, but the 1990's seems to be about the right time when we started on this road to where we are today. Most forget the friendship and good working relationship Tip O'Neal had with Ronald Reagan. So it has to be after that. It was after Reagan and O'Neal when both parties instituted their divide and conquer strategy in search for votes. Pitting one group of voters against another group. Running all these negative personal attack ads, trying to get the voter to hate the other guy more than they hate you.

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Our election campaigns aren't about substance anymore, not about ideas, possible solutions to our problems, a vision of the future. It's all about mud slinging and negative personal attacks. It's became a case to win by any means available. I don't see that changing anytime soon.

 

The 1990s. Internet was taking off.
24/7 so called news stations were coming in the tv.

Echo chambers emerged.

You are correct. The parties have been treating the other party as the enemy. When the reality is, all most everyone wants is a roof over one's head and 3 squares on the table.
Also, the free trade agreements were taking precedent. Jobs were fleeing the country. We went from good paying jobs to a service sector economy with those deals.
We stagnated in wages for decades.

We went from having a 1 worker economy to needing 2 workers or more in a household to pay the bills.

There's a plethora of reasons.
Perhaps it was the endless investigations of Clinton. The impeachment. Even though Clinton sold our American workers signing the trade agreements.

Bottom line, I guess is there isn't any one thing one can put a finger on.
And you are correct. It's been happening for decades.
The 90s were absolutely roaring. Money was flowing everywhere. Fiber networks were booming the economy and laid the ground work for todays internet.
The world was moving at the speed of light. Literally.
We started the transition to the global economy. And I don't see it ever going away.

We were the leaders of the global change. What used to take weeks or months to happen is now happening in minutes.

You are correct, it may not change anytime soon.

But if we don't start treating other Americans as partners working towards a common goal, we will cease to exist as a country.

 

Joe lets illegals swarm into the country without even giving them a Covid test. All part of his plan.