Should Donald Trump run for the presidency in 2024?

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Should Donald Trump run for the presidency in 2024?

Poll closed Mar 16, 2021.
  1. Yes, he should run as a Republican, and I would vote for him.

    15.4%
  2. No, he should not run at all, and I would not vote for him.

    53.8%
  3. Yes, he should run as a 3rd-party candidate, and I would vote for him.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Yes, he should run as a 3rd-party candidate, but I would NOT vote for him.

    15.4%
  5. Trump should run only if Biden runs again, and I would vote for Trump.

    7.7%
  6. Trump should run only if Biden runs again, and I would NOT vote for him.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Nobody over the age of 70 has any business in the presidency. I would not vote for him.

    23.1%
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  1. perotista

    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I totally agree, you brought up several other reason and happenings, all contributed to where we are today politically. Well said. I'll add this, another problem is our elected officials only look toward the next election, not past or into the future. As long as things are going well, the economy is good, folks are happy now and will be come next election, they don't give a darn about the future after that. Only once they're reelected do they start giving the future some thought, but that is 2 years, 4 years or 6 into the future, only as far as the next election again. No one thinks long term as in decades.

    I don't think our two major parties realize they are in the process of destroying this country. There's times I think they don't care if they do.
     
  2. An Old Guy

    An Old Guy Well-Known Member

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    Trump is a twice impeached former president, after more time passes and more info comes out I'm not sure the Republican party would want to have anything to do with him....at least what was once the Republican party I was familiar with. Hopefully the only thing he runs for in 2024 is inmate cellblock monitor :lol:.
     
  3. Pollycy

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    I won't altogether disagree with you... it often seemed that Trump went WAY out of his way to pick fights with antagonists or to get embroiled in all those laughable 'cage-matches' with people in 'Twitter-sorties'. What a lot of childish, counterproductive horse crap....

    Truth? NOBODY has handled the pandemic very well, including our much-vaunted 'experts'. And right through this morning we see that, once again, they don't really know what they're dealing with, how the mutations evolve, what kind of vaccine will really work, how current vaccines will have to be modified to deal with faster-spreading, more-lethal variations of the virus, etc., etc. Plus, right now, the federal government (now under wise, beneficent "Joe") has left many state governments in a state of total confusions regarding which vaccines have been sent where, in what quantities, using what delivery timeframes, dependent on which follow-up vaccination timeframes.

    And now, the big 'deep-freeze' brought on at least partially because the giant wind-turbines that the hyperliberal, fossil-fuel-hating "Greens" love so much were rendered useless by the many thousands, causing power outages. Gee... I wonder how long those vaccines that require refrigeration at 70-degrees below zero are going to hold up when there's no electricity for the freezers...? But the Left will cheer like drunk English fans at a soccer game as ol' Joe continues to eliminate coal and natural gas power plants.... :woot:

    But, if you are irritated by 'narcissism' (another less-than-endearing Trump trait, admittedly) you're probably going to LOVE Kamala-la-la when she comes into 'full bloom' in her approaching run for the presidency in 2024, if she doesn't take over the Oval Office automatically before then when ol' Joe comes to the realization that he's in WAY over his poor, old senile head, in about another year or so....
     
  4. dairyair

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    Wow. The BS in posts is thick.
     
  5. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Joes not in over his head.
     
  6. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    It is our understanding that 'undocumented immigrants', 'illegal aliens', 'foreign-nationals-applying-for-asylum', etc., will not (NOT) have to provide American border patrol officials a negative COVID-19 test in order to be allowed entry into the United States. Is that not what you've understood...?
     
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    How disappointing. A six-word reply to all THAT? Usually your posts are of a, uh, 'higher-calibre'....

    You may yet have something of substance to say if poor, old senile Joe falls as 'flat on his face' as many of you have thought that Trump did regarding the handling of this pandemic.

    Truth? As I said, nobody has done a particularly 'good job' of it, but 'blue states' are starting to open-up more and more now, JUST AS THE NEW VARIANTS ARE SPREADING LIKE WILDFIRE! Ooh... and now it's all happening on ol' JOE'S WATCH...! :cynic:

    [​IMG]. "Hey, with a liberal DEMOCRAT running things, what can go wrong...?!" :roflol:
     
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    I think many in the 2 parties know the country is being destroyed.
    It's that their next reelection is the only thing that matters. And to ensure the next election, they have to tow the party line.
    So it becomes themselves, party, donors, the people(since they vote), and the country is last on the pecking order.

    But we the people carry all the power.
    If we are fed up, vote out all incumbents all the time.
    Many want term limits. But the folks who get elected for 40 yrs, have to install those term limits. Will never ever happen.
     
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    Is anyone required in the entire USA to provide a negative covid test?

    I haven't read anything on the incoming.
     
  10. dairyair

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    Your rant was so so bad. She/he a dem.
    Your response is why I kept mine simple and short.
    I don't need BS partisan talking points.
     
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  11. Pollycy

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    OK... fair enough. We'll just see how ol' Joe handles everything going forward.

    The only Democrat president we've had in my long lifetime with any common sense, comprehensive intelligence, or real competence at all was Bill Clinton. But maybe ol' Joe will be the second one... if he lasts long enough before the Jamaican Voodoo Queen takes over everything in the Executive Branch completely....
     
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    People also want a viable third party since they don't think the two existing major parties represent them anymore.

    STORY HIGHLIGHTS
    • 62% say a third party is needed, up from 57% in September
    • Highest support for a third party by one percentage point
    • A record-high 63% of Republicans favor a third party
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/329639/support-third-political-party-high-point.aspx?
    utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

    The two major parties have a monopoly on our election system and they're bound and determined to keep it that way. Republicans and Democrats write our election laws and they do so as a mutual protection act. If there's one thing both major parties agree on, it's no viable third party will ever rise.

    I suppose we're stuck voting in one party one election, out the next and then back in.
     
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    Are you totally unaware that Joe is letting illegals into the country without Covid tests? Hard to believe. Compliance with PF rules prevents a stronger statement.

    Here you can educate yourself. Don't complain about the source. It was the first one I Googled. There are many source if you care to do a little homework.

    https://kprcradio.iheart.com/featur...ls-into-us-without-covid-tests-texas-sheriff/
     
  14. dairyair

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    I have voted 3rd party most often at pres level.
    I have almost always wanted a 3rd party. I've never liked either of the 2 parties.

    One needs a gov't program to fix everything.
    The other only wants a select group of people to have equal opportunities. And wants to dictate people's daily lives.

    I hope the R's splinter deep enough to form a 3rd party. Doubtful. The tea party tried. And got consumed by DC politics.

    There are lot's of things the 2 parties agree upon. Unfortunately, Best for America isn't one of them. But how to keep a congress with a 15% approval rating members getting reelected at a 90% rate.
     
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    Is anyone tracked on the basis of covid tests?

    Don't complain about the source? Seriously? If you had a real story, you'd have a real source.

    What specific policy that he signed concerns you?
    All you've provided is some person's opinion. About what he thinks is going on.
     
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    I don't want Trump to run, because if he will run it will force me to vote for Democrats again.
     
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    Nicely said. I completely agree. I like the idea of Trump, but in practice, he was a disaster.

    Rubio completely lost my support the moment he put his lips around Trump's penis.
     
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    Biden has been trying to be president since the 80s. He's not going anywhere. Right wing campaign talking points do not equate to Biden's actual motives.

    Since when does the Executive branch get to tell the Legislative branch what to do?
     
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    You imagine things I don't see.
     
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    When it comes to congress and reelection rates, there's an old say about how one loves their own congressman, it's the other 434 that are the problem. Then there is always the huge money factor for incumbents, plus gerrymanders placing many into safe districts. In a normal congressional election, there are only around 35 seats in the at risk category, tossups or leans. Most of the rest are fairly solid one party or the other.

    Elections like 1994, 2006, 2010 and 2018 don't happen often. They're know as wave election where independents for one reason or another got very angry at the party in control. It's amazing we have had those 4 wave elections recently. The previous wave election was in 1946 prior to 1994. Of course the Democrats controlled the house for 58 of 62 years 1932-1994.

    Previous political era when both parties had their conservative and liberal wings, when both parties respected each other, when both parties realized each had the same goal, a secure, free and prosperous America. There really wasn't any negative personal attacks against each other, elections were about substance, ideas, visions of the future and solutions to our problems. One probably could say ideologues were rare as were straight party line voting in congress.

    Now most of that was prior to our modern primary system being initiated in 1976. Whether or not that has something to do with it, I don't know. Pre-1976 there was only 10-15 primaries and some of those were non-binding. Thinking of the past again.
     
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    In the 90s, mudslinging ended up working to get a candidate elected.
    It was considered a terrible stategy, morally speaking. But the results were so good, it has become the only way to campaign.

    Likely another reason for the political enemy mentality.
     
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    Negative campaigning goes back to the early 1800s. It has definitely gotten worse, but the whole "Vote for me or we're doomed," concept is very, very old.
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps, at least as far as I can remember the real first mud slinging could have been G.H.W. Bush's Willie Horton ad. But that wasn't a personal attack, it was an attack on Dukakis's early release program with racial overtones. 1992 was probably the real beginning of the personal attack ads.

    Now Carter called Reagan that Damn cowboy along with many other Democrats, but not in ads. I just can't remember any real attack ads until 1992 if one discounts G.H.W. Bush's Willie Horton ad. It was in the 90's when we took our dive politically.

    I grew up under Eisenhower and I always loved his political ads.



    My have times changed.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Does accusing Andrew Jackson of cannibalism count as negative? His mother was called a common prostitute and his wife a bigamist.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffin_Handbills
     
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    That was pre-modern political party era. Remember Jackson himself founded the Democratic Party, the first modern political party to be established. Besides, I was talking in my life time, that I personally remember. I don't personally remember the Jackson campaign, I may be old, but I'm not that old..
     

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