Should education be left to the states to administer?

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

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    Ok. So, every city, county and State will have different standards. What would possibly go wrong.....

    Maybe they can adopt that kind of system in your State and see how it goes. I guess there would a a heavy dose of Baptist religion 'studies'.
     
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    No they won't. The PRODUCT of schools will either be successes or failures. PARENTS want their kids to succeed. So school standards will end up very similar to achieve STUDENT SUCCESS. The key issue is that those standards will be generated by PARENTS... not the FEDS.
     
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    Of course they would. When you let parents vote for each school, they will end up teaching different things in different schools. Lot of parents don't know squat about teaching, so they can be persuaded to vote for the weirdest things. Lot of people also don't care, or don't have time to get so deeply involved in it. People work for living (you don't, but many do).
     
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    Parents may not know about teaching, but they know what they want their kids to LEARN. Things that will stand them in good stead when they are adults... reading, writing, computer skills, mathematics, history, science, and all the rest. And NOT political indoctrination like CRT.
     
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    That's what is being taught now.
     
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    Some do, and many don't have a faintest clue.

    Many neighborhoods are pretty much guaranteed to vote for CRT and things like computer studies wouldn't even cross their mind.
     
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    No... CRT is pervasive... that's why parents turned the tide in the Virginia election.
     
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    Where? Do you even know what that is, or has the term just become a boogeyman?
     
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    CRT is racist left wing indoctrination badmouthing the United Sates. Pure evil. I doubt any responsible parent wants his kid taught that America is evil.
     
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    I agree 110%. Federal control over educational programs is not permitted to the federal government in the constitution therefore it should go to the states. Not only on a constitutional level but on a moral level it also should be left to the states. Whichever municipality is closest to the electorate should govern school issues. Outside sources should not weigh in on peoples children.
     
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    Let me ask you something. Does CRT teach that white countries ended slavery world wide? I’m asking as an honest question. Not a catch 22. Because if it doesn’t is it really teaching true history?
     
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    CRT's whole premise is that America is inherently racist... that's just a fact... pure left wing anti-American propaganda. Responsible parents won't stand for it. That's why Virginia's new governor is Republican.
     
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    ABSOLUTELY!
     
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    I wouldn't know. No subject called "CRT" has ever been taught in any school where I've worked in over 28 years in education. I've never even heard of it actually being deliberately taught anywhere in the real world. All I've ever seen of it is in shouting matches on social media, dissertations by some dopey college kid trying to impress a radical professor, and the rare, individual and isolated rantings of a random nut job rouge teacher here and there.
     
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    Why won't you answer my question? Because you can't?
     
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    That's how it works now.
     
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    CRT is being taught in schools coast to coast: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/y...-is-being-taught-in-public-schools/ar-AAM2t1V
     
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    Have you ever observed it being taught in any actual school in real life? I haven't.
     
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    I just did.
     
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    Oh lord. You'll be teaching creationism and make part of your sports programme include two hours of gun use a week.
    And more practically, who is going to censor the textbooks and teaching materials or form inspection teams to remark on quality of teaching? Who is going to make sure they are objective too?
    "Outside sources should not interfere in state education," so children are told different things depending on state borders?
    Not for me, thanks.
     
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    Have you ever seen it being taught with your own two eyes? Have you ever spoken to a teacher to claims to teach it? Have you ever seen a "CRT" textbook that is the main, required text in the syllabus for any high school class?
     
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    Do you think that curricula in every state is the same now? They are not.
     
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    Not here in Texas. Its outlawed by Executive Order. But I just sent you a source its being taught coast to coast
     
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    I don’t see anything wrong with gun classes. Lol

    but to hit on the other. Why do you think states can’t provide good education without federal oversight? They aren’t doing any good for Californias literacy rate, it’s embarrassing low. Why do you think that California couldn’t do better than the federal government?
     
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    You'll have to excuse me if I don't open some sketchy link. If your source named any, provide the name of any public school where it is being taught as a deliberate, required course anywhere k-12.
     

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