Should employers be able to fire you for legal activity outside of work?

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Should employers be able to fire you for legal activity outside of work?

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  2. No

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  1. Yulee

    Yulee Well-Known Member

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    You sure can fire people for that! Personally I think she was setup and she’s guilty of a Cynthia


    She’s racist AF
     
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  2. Chrizton

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    Yelling racial slurs at black people would not be legal in a lot of places, but assuming that it were were, yest employers should be able to fire people for that.
     
  3. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Legal activity" is too broad. If the legal activity is attending church or a political rally, no. If it is an act that would deter a reasonable person from doing business with a company that would hire such a person, yes.
     
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  4. btthegreat

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    Because the only political rallies we want people to feel free to attend without feel of reprisal, are the ones that are already popular and fashionable in the community where they live. Its important that businesses not be allowed to punish people for marching in the independence day or St Patrick's day parades!
     
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  5. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For me, I would go 100% at will and never require a reason.
     
  6. btthegreat

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    Then why write "If the legal activity is attending church or a political rally, no."
     
  7. Doofenshmirtz

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    It removes "reason" from the discussion.
     
  8. btthegreat

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    here's the question 'Should employers be able to fire you for legal activity outside of work?' Here's your answer if the legal activity is attending church or a political ralley, no."

    You did not 'remove reason from the discussion' with that answer. You introduced two possible reasons of your choosing, when firing for legal activity should not be allowed.
     
  9. Kal'Stang

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    What racial slurs? None were used. If she ever saw your post its quite possible she could sue you for libel.
     
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    You capitalize black, but not white. Is this a racial slur as well?
     
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    Harassment isn't legal.
     
  13. WillReadmore

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    There are popular individuals who have lost their jobs over racist BS they pull.

    Surely you are pointing to a flaw in many who just fail to hold to their moral values.
     
  14. WillReadmore

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    Well, it can become illegal, depending on how far it goes.
     
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    Yes. I do believe a company should be able to choose who represents them. It’s the same thing as firing one for failing a drug test even though he or she isn’t high during work. I believe they should have that option.
     
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    Ones employment is considered at will. Which allows employees and employers to hire, fire or quit at will. In this case the employer is using the employee outside behavior is in direct opposition to their business platform. I'm not a lawyer, but to get a lawsuit against them while possible it won't lead to too much, at best a small settlement.
     
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    Was anyone ever able to come up with a shred of evidence that that was the case concerning the case in question?
     
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    If She was white she would have been gone within days
     
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    I think yes.

    Though I think it should be very sparingly used. The recent example of lady who questioned a black man fishing is an example of an employer being legally allowed to do so but morally disgusting for doing so.

    Unfortunately, the world we live in is very racist towards white peoples while simultaneously pretending it’s the other way around. And there is plenty of room for these companies to do this to white people simply for being white. This should not be encouraged.
     
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    The left is supporting this now but if the Karen was black and the fishermen was white you and me and everyone on this board knows they would do an instant 180
     
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    Yes. With exceptions. As noted above, if you have a contract or a union agreement the employer cannot simply fire you if it pleases them.
    Beyond that, yes, an employer can fire anyone for any or no reason at all. There might be a question of how much it will cost the employer to fire you, but the bottom line is, if the employer wants you out, goodbye.

    Now then, a better question might be "Can an employer fire you for actions outside of work hours". And the answer is "it depends". The key factor is whether or not your actions bring discredit to your employer. If, for example, you get in a fight at the local watering hole after work and you're still wearing your company uniform, then the employer can fire you. If on the other hand you get in a fight but you are not wearing the company uniform, then probably no, the employer can't fire you.

    There is even a supreme court case on the matter, Employment Division V Smith, 494 U.S. 872 (1990) .
    That case centered around the use of drugs (Peyote) in off the job religious ceremonies, by two drug counselors. The crux of the matter was that while religious beliefs can trump many things, it cannot trump the law and in particular, an employers expectation that employees obey the law. Especially drug laws when we're talking drug counselors employed by a drug rehab company.
     
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    Would YOU want an admitted neo-Nazi working for you?
     
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    Absolutely. The lefts only standards are double standards.
     
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    should people be able to vote Democrat? The debate is moot as both can be done
     
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    what ever "gay civil rights" happens to be is as well defined as what is pornography. We do not have the entire details as to what you claim so we'll leave it at that. Let's just say that because someone believes that all are equal, and what you choose to do in the bedroom is your own business, does not make them a bigot.

    When all rules apply for single people is when these "rights" that you seek will then be equal. To demand preferential treatment over a single person just because you engage in the homosexual lifestyle is not a civil right, it's preferential treatment.
     

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