Should Liberals be called by their correct name - Comintern -Communist International

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Should Liberals be called by their correct name - Comintern or Communist International

  1. No they should be called Liberals to avoid an Identity crisis..... oh wait

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  2. No you are being Racist - they are politically-fluid

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  3. Yes - they are what they are - Cominterns

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  4. No - You can't start introducing new terms... oh wait.. (btw Comintern was created in 1919 by Lenin)

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  5. Maybe - I don't know what a Comintern is (see pics/text in OP for more info)

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  6. Yes Cominterns are Communists, Communists likes to hide... let's shine a spotlight on them

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  7. Other

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  8. No, Liberals are free and artificially inseminated baby cows and stuff and cereal, thank you.. peace

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  1. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Father of Liberalism is Willi Munzenberg, Lenin's propaganda master for the west. Communist propaganda was brought to the west by the Comintern, Communist International or sometimes referred to as Third International or Globalist. They are a communist instrument, mostly unwittingly, completely unaware of the master they serve nor the goal they are blindly marching towards.

    Their goals are to create propaganda for the right-thinking non-communist West,

    1. the belief that any opinion that happened to serve the foreign policy of the Comintern (Liberals) are derived from the most essential elements of human decency.
    2. To instill the feeling, like a truth of nature that seriously to criticise or challenge Comintern (or Liberal) policy is the unfailing mark of a bad, bigoted and probably stupid person,
    3. That support of the Comintern policies are equally infallible proof of a forward looking mind committed to all that was best for humanity and marked by an uplifting refinement of sensibility.

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    You don't even live in the US. You are Australian, right?
     
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    You are exactly correct. All of this was inevitable once the Left gained effective control over both education and the media outlets of this nation. The Soviets claimed that they would take over the United States without ever firing a shot. This is coming to pass year by year by way of an ideological infection from an empire that -- ironically -- died from its own disease.

    But I still prefer to use the umbrella term of Leftist. I've become comfortable with it. Besides it would take forever to explain to the typical product of our leftist controlled educational system just what the nature of a Comintern is and why he or she has gradually been programmed over the course of decades to have become just that.
     
  4. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why is US citizenship a requirement for this discussion? The Comintern is an "Internationalist" it stands for Communist International, it has infiltrated the whole world, I believe Japan is one of the few countries (and the only I am aware of) where the Comintern's influence have decreased instead of increased.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lenin would be so proud, the success of the Comintern beyond anyone’s wildest dreams. World leaders fall over themselves to prove their wokeness, oblivious the master they serve. They sneer and giggle at conservatives… in true Comintern fashion, they believe themselves more intelligent… because the Comintern tells them so. They allow themselves to be used, because their egos makes them easy to manipulate.

    Countries offer themselves & their culture at communism’s altar, “Oh Comintern, without thee we are surely “Nothing”. https://www.theepochtimes.com/with-...globalism-turns-to-self-loathing_3237622.html

    You would think Liberals would stop and look around them…. Corruption and inequality at an all time high, on the cusp of mass starvation in Africa and mass migration on a scale the world have never seen before. If you are doing so much good why is the world not getting better? Why are we on the precipice of disaster, a disaster created by the Comintern because our leaders are captured and weak.

    Like addicts liberals move from cause to cause looking for their fix, believing they are doing good…. oblivious they are serving evil, despite the millions of dead bodies lying in their wake.

    The Mainstream Media in the grip of the Comintern have failed humanity… the media have been captured and enslaved.

    Is it any wonder Putin, an ex KGB officer who has intimate knowledge of the Comintern and its purpose, has donned the mantle of Conservatism and Christianity, the natural enemies of communism in his attempts to protect Russia from the Comintern and Communism. For his efforts he has been relentlessly smeared…. As have Conservatives all over the world.

    In 1986 John McManus closes his speech with words to the effect of “But don’t despair, now that we know this, we can stop it and change the outcome”.
    Yet here we are 34 years later with South Africa in the grip of communism. Surely if we cannot stop the Comintern…tomorrow… humanity will be in chains.
     
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    No because very few liberals actually support full socialism/communism. They want to tax and regulate businesses. You may not like taxes or regulations, but it is not the same thing as having the state own the means of production.
     
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    A liberal is by definition not a communist. That'd be like calling an Evangelical Christian an atheist.
     
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    That's not the same thing as socialism either. Socialism is workers owning everything. The government owning everything is state-capitalism, socialism is that farmer's market co-op down the street.
     
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    In Marxian theory, communism is workers owning everything. Socialism is the government owning everything. The whole (false) premise was that socialism would lead to communism.
     
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    No, workers own businesses, not everything. Personal property is a thing. Socialism is economics, not politics. Communism is libertarianin anarchy. Nothing about the USSR was Marxist, they just applied the label to win legitimacy.
     
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    Lots of modern Democrats have abandoned liberalism in favor of socialism, which is the same as communism.
    Those Democrats should not be called liberals.

    Progressivism is just socialism for non economic issues.
     
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    I find Neoliberal and/or Progressive to have the best balance of accuracy and generality. Very seldom am I misunderstood using these simplified terms.
     
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    I can sort of agree with that in broad strokes. But communism is anarchism and nowhere in the Dem platform will you find anything even hinting at the dissolution of the state. But yes, there are many Democrats that have gone over to SocDem (still capitalism) and a few to socialism and they're not liberals.
     
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    Okay then you seem to agree. I was just being lazy when I said everything instead of "means of production"
     
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    Their open borders anarchy is the dissolution of the state...
     
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    If not for liberals, USA would still be paying taxes to England.
     
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    Conservatives are actually more liberal than what "liberals" call themselves today. They hijacked the name and twisted it into something that they are not.

     
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    US states have open borders. So do EU nations. Kansas and France are still things.
     
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    The Comintern was dissolved by Stalin in 1943

    The Soviet Union was dissolved in 1989. Communism and socialism have been bankrupt ideologies since the late 1970s and don't really even exist any more.

    Communism exists in name only in China, where the leaders of that wholly Capitalist but also strongly authoritarian nation are as much running dog lackeys of the Jinrong as any one percenter

    The posters here need to go back to their John Birch Society Meeting and stop cluttering up this Forum with clueless bullshit

     
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    See the section on Innocents or The Innocents club... how Munzenberg referred to those completely unaware that they are supporting communism.
    It is halfway down the first page I posted in the OP

     
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    Khrushchev told us to our faces that the Comintern program was till running. Gatewood mentioned it in this post http://www.politicalforum.com/index...mmunist-international.568189/#post-1071432432

    but here is the quote

    How do you take over a country without firing a shot.... with the Comintern.

    In addition to this.... are you trying to tell me that Liberalism have since 1943, evolved into Textbook Lenin, Textbook Soviet Propaganda, all by itself. Absurd.

    It also makes no sense shutting down a program that is so successful and provided support for Soviet Spies. Obviously the Comintern program was run covertly, and what does it say about us, our naïveté if we believed they stopped it.

    as for clueless bullshit.... it's obvious who is clueless and who are trying to sell the west bullshit.
     
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    That's the problem you tax individuals and their money....not businesses. That is double taxation. You regulate them out of business then the government owns them. Very few liberals admit to their desire for Socialism but they are coming out of their closet. They have been suspect for many decades.
     
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    Good luck on reviving Senator McCarthy, and bringing back a "menace" that has been dead for over 30 years and never really existed in the first place. Trumpism has bankrupted conservatism so thoroughly that yesterday's propaganda is all you have left.
     
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    And that is exactly the point. The Soviet Union may have died, Communism never did. South Africa today is in the grip of Communism and China was poised only a year or two ago (if Trump didn't stop them) to take over America's spot as Strongest Economy, all thanks to the Comintern. Not bad for Communism that according to you do not exist :lol:

    What interest me is your determination to shut me down. Clearly I am sharing information you would rather not be posted.
     
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    Yeh, yeh, Taxes are theft. You can sit down now Monsieur Proudhon
     
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